Like I said before. One person's postings can bring down a forum and give guests the wrong impression of the forum. If you want Lao Pride to reflect positively on Laos and Lao people then certain lines must NOT be crossed. Larb Dip crossed those lines. He was warned. He crossed them again. Again he was warned. The cycle repeats again and again. He even admits that he has no idea why the Admin puts up with his flagrant abuse of those rules. Nor do I. If you don't care about the forum then neither will others. That will be a very sad day. A sad day indeed.  

I understand your point of view William. Larb Dip does need to chill out. I also like the freedom of speech in Lao Pride, but it come with responsibility. This world would be so boring if everybody get along an so nice.
;)

llX wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 5:25am:

I understand your point of view William. Larb Dip does need to chill out. I also like the freedom of speech in Lao Pride, but it come with responsibility. This world would be so boring if everybody get along an so nice. ;)

He has committed to change his behaviour several times before and has failed to keep that commitment.

Just as he has said that he will take a 'sabbatical' from the forum before but didn't do so.

That is the kind of person he is.

Dishonest, offensive and non-constructive.

Not that everybody has to be polite, honest and constructive.

But really, there are better homes on the internet for Larb Dip.  There are tens of thousand of pornographic sites where his kind of input is welcome.

I don't see this site as one of them.  At least, I hope not.

Especially because he dominates the site more than any other members by posting on every possible thread because he has some childish idea that the number of his posts means something.

Personally, my life would be better without exposure to such a negative and sexually self-obsessed character.


Old Man

Good point Old Man. I respected your point of view and opinion. Been around social network for many year I has seen worse.
:) 8-)

llX wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 6:34am:

Good point Old Man. I respected your point of view and opinion. Been around social network for many year I has seen worse. :) 8-)

Yes...Yes...Yes...... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Honestly I don't (that's don't with a "D") expect the Admin to terminate Larb's account even if everyone member on the forum (minus 1) voted to have him removed. I believe she (or he) really enjoys the banter that they share.

It is sad really, I wish that he would cool it. I have lots of friends (not just on the computer) that are younger than I am, yet they don't talk like that. It wasn't allowed in my parents home and I didn't tolerate it in my home either.

I believe it gives this forum the wrong impression to potential members. I do respect freedom of speech, but there are limits to what I can tolerate. When I reach that limit I will be gone. The sad thing is Larb will probably still be here and still be posting the same vulgar posts.

NO NO NO........

Lard Dip is living in the land of Freedom of speech and press. He has the right to express his feeling and thought.

I am old enought to handle any kind of BS because I am a real freedom fighter. We all adult here. If not then .....

P.S  This website is belong to Laos Communist any way .
Learn somethings from it.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 8:21am:

NO NO NO........ Lard Dip is living in the land of Freedom of speech and press. He has the right to express his feeling and thought. I am old enought to handle any kind of BS because I am a real freedom fighter. We all adult here. If not then ..... P.S  This website is belong to Laos Communist any way . Learn somethings from it.

Right, I'm out of here. Things just getting a bit too silly. Good luck.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 8:21am:

NO NO NO........ Lard Dip is living in the land of Freedom of speech and press. He has the right to express his feeling and thought. I am old enought to handle any kind of BS because I am a real freedom fighter. We all adult here. If not then ..... P.S  This website is belong to Laos Communist any way . Learn somethings from it.

This website is very informative in so many ways.  You are going to let one prick ruin that for others?  Freedom of speech or not, there are limitations.  He joined on march of this year.  He has made 877 posts, most are nearly about sexual matter.  He's obviously lonely.  His claim of work and picking up women left and right makes me wonder if what he says is even true at all.  Tee, you are right on the money about this guy.

In regards to your comment about the website, you act like you don't give a crap about it, yet you are registered here and made posts.  My question to you is why?  Not all of us agree with the system of government in Laos just like you, however, Laos has opened up their doors to the world, it is changing...you don't see that? where have you been?

OMD wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 8:55am:

You are going to let one prick ruin that for others?  Freedom of speech or not, there are limitations.  He joined on march of this year.  He has made 877 posts, most are nearly about sexual matter.  He's obviously lonely.  His claim of work and picking up women left and right makes me wonder if what he says is even true at all.

If you actually paid attention to my posts, half of them were aimed solely towards the admin'. Our sopposedly one-on-one correspondances are what REALLY racked up my strike rate. We were discussing everything from........go back and read for yourself. 30% were sexual in nature, 10% were political, the remaining 10% were just for the sake of posting.

So I'm lonely now? How lonely? It's no secret I don't want a fulltime woman, not yet, anyway. I'm still having fun while I'm young. When I'm a bit older THEN I'll settle down and get married, or whatever it is you old folks do. ;) Just because you old timers are robbed of your primes, you don't anyone else having fun, is that it? You can see for yourselves the admin' don't mind helping me out. What, no one else here has EVER been with a prostitute? (If you're going to bother answering that question, you better answer faithfully.)


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 6^th May, 2011 at 11:33pm:

To answer your question in regards to why we've kept you around, is because many of your comments are also thoughtful and considerate of others.

The fact that you have yet to 'terminate' my account only says one thing: you don't want to. However, if you feel you need to save face, then feel free to pull the guillotine anytime. I'm willing to concede to give you the satisfaction.

Now where was I? That's right, back to my sabbatical, or will it be retirement? All up to you nang. ;)


P.S. You know how much you guys are making me laugh right now? If only you could see the faces of boys/homies/friends/pals right now. ;D ;D ;D We are laughimg all the way 'till the sun comes out!!! Since it's Friday in NZ and drinking night, I'll be regularly checking to see what my beloved Administrator decides for my fate.

If I DO get to stay on, I'm going to switch my pen name to "Charisma" in honour of this watershed moment. :) ;) :P :D ;D

I'm not even going to vote, nor has the admin' done so either. :-?

After discussions with my colleagues, we've come to a decision that Larb Dip's actions are stupid, but it doesn't warrant getting him banned from Lao Pride.

I'm all for freedom of speech, as long as comments are suitable to a general audience. To figure out whether or not your comment is appropriate to others, think about your parents as a guide. If they read your comment, will it offend them or not?

Please accept our sincere apologies if Larb Dip has caused any offence to anyone. I hope that Larb Dip will do the right thing for all of us and keep his comments clean from this stage forward. I will monitor the situation closely to make sure that he doesn't overstep the mark again.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 10:43am:

After discussions with my colleagues, we've come to a decision that Larb Dip's actions are stupid, but it doesn't warrant getting him banned from Lao Pride. I'm all for freedom of speech, as long as comments are suitable to a general audience. To figure out whether or not your comment is appropriate to others, think about your parents as a guide. If they read your comment, will it offend them or not? Please accept our sincere apologies if Larb Dip has caused any offence to anyone. I hope that Larb Dip will do the right thing for all of us and keep his comments clean from this stage forward. I will monitor the situation closely to make sure that he doesn't overstep the mark again.

Quote:

He can be bothersome at times, but he's Lao and that's probably saving him at the moment. Some foreigners come here for information about marriages in Laos, and you've been there, done that, and your help to our members and lurkers is valuable and much appreciated. We hope just one member irritating you, will not see you go.

Tells me pretty much what I need to know.
OK. Best of luck with the website. Bye.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 6^th May, 2011 at 11:33pm:

To answer your question in regards to why we've kept you around, is because many of your comments are also thoughtful and considerate of others.

oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....hhhhhheeeeeuuuuuwwwww!!! ::CLAPPING MY HANDS::  oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....hhhhhheeeeeuuuuuwwwww!!!
::STILL CLAPPING:: oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....oooooooooohhhhh.....hhhhhheeeeeuuuuuwwwww!!!
::MORE CLAPPING::

You really DID mean what you said earlier Eelaa Khampang (That's another one of your nicknames I'm giving you. You deserved it!). Your support means alot to me. :'( :'( :'(

I have to thank my supporters: Lao LXE, WantLaosToBeIndependant and, of course, my dearly beloved Administrator! (Even you, who sat on the fence. Unmask yourself.) ;)

In particular, I want to thank LaoPride.com's cast and crew - those behind the scenes - for todays fair trial. Justice was served. Rightly so. The Admin', who played the role of 'Judge Judy', has banged her gavel, thrice. Case closed!

As for my adversaries, let's let sleeping dogs lie and not bring this up ever again. We all know who ended up on top, right? :)

Now I'm REALLY going to take that sabbatical! I will no longer renege. A month in the sun sounds like alot of fun! The 'buzz' generated from today's verdict will keep me in a nostalgic spirit for at least a month!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

These are the REASONS why I signed up with LP forum - to know more about Laos, to  discuss with others concerning Lao politics, to  talk about ideas/suggestions that may speed up the 'modernization' process going on in Laos.

Larb Dip was very knowlegable about Laos because of the obvious reason and wanted Laos and all people from Laos to be more prosperous just like everyone else in whatever shapes or forms in the upcoming future of the 'modernization' period in Laos.  To me, he had mentioned very valuables inputs/ideas/solutions in LP forum to do so.

Yes I agree he did 'cross over' from many of his comments, but his inputs/ideas outweight the 'cross over' comments.  Larb Dip talk to you in about a month Bro if you'd decided to take the 'sabbatical' still.

That's my input and I hope I am not the Devil's Advocate ;).

Agreed. Well said. Larb Dip don't bother me. Good thing Lao government don't sensors the inernet and allow freedom of speech and press. Thank LPDR.
;D ;) :D


PEACE wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 12:46pm:

These are the REASONS why I signed up with LP forum - to know more about Laos, to  discuss with others concerning Lao politics, to  talk about ideas/suggestions that may speed up the 'modernization' process going on in Laos. Larb Dip was very knowlegable about Laos because of the obvious reason and wanted Laos and all people from Laos to be more prosperous just like everyone else in whatever shapes or forms in the upcoming future of the 'modernization' period in Laos.  To me, he had mentioned very valuables inputs/ideas/solutions in LP forum to do so. Yes I agree he did 'cross over' from many of his comments, but his inputs/ideas outweight the 'cross over' comments.  Larb Dip talk to you in about a month Bro if you'd decided to take the 'sabbatical' still. That's my input and I hope I am not the Devil's Advocate ;).

I also agreed with you JACKSPACE.
;) :o


OMD wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 8:55am:

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 8:21am: NO NO NO........ Lard Dip is living in the land of Freedom of speech and press. He has the right to express his feeling and thought. I am old enought to handle any kind of BS because I am a real freedom fighter. We all adult here. If not then ..... P.S  This website is belong to Laos Communist any way . Learn somethings from it. This website is very informative in so many ways.  You are going to let one prick ruin that for others?  Freedom of speech or not, there are limitations.  He joined on march of this year.  He has made 877 posts, most are nearly about sexual matter.  He's obviously lonely.  His claim of work and picking up women left and right makes me wonder if what he says is even true at all.  Tee, you are right on the money about this guy. In regards to your comment about the website, you act like you don't give a crap about it, yet you are registered here and made posts.  My question to you is why?  Not all of us agree with the system of government in Laos just like you, however, Laos has opened up their doors to the world, it is changing...you don't see that? where have you been?

wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 11:00am:

Tells me pretty much what I need to know. OK. Best of luck with the website. Bye.

Yeah.

If this site is just for adolescent sexual banter, and members writing pointless posts just to get their post count up, it's obviously not for me either.

Pity.... :'(

Bye.

Old Man

Okay Admin. I wish you best of luck with your website. This is just not the material I wish to read everyday. So best of luck to everyone who decides to stay. Sohk Dee Der.

Old Man you are one of our favorite LP member here.
:) 8-)


wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 4:42pm:

wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 11:00am: Tells me pretty much what I need to know. OK. Best of luck with the website. Bye. Yeah. If this site is just for adolescent sexual banter, and members writing pointless posts just to get their post count up, it's obviously not for me either. Pity.... :'( Bye. Old Man

We have 2 good people that left, now old man is possibly leaving too.  What information has Larb Dip provided that is so vital to this website and for him to stay?   Lao LXE, old man, and others have provided useful information.  How's being LAO have to do with anything admin?  The decision should be based on the behavior of that person.  Just like you defended that pedophile or pedophile to be, and you shot some of us down and thought we were wrong about him but, in the end you made the right decision.  If you don't want to humiliate him in public you can always pm him to let him know where he stands.  

JACKSPADE, Yes, we have two very good people that have left us which is sad especially for me, but we can't make everybody happy. I wish them good luck and happiness in their lives, and of course the door remains open and they're welcome back anytime, with open arms.

He is our youngest member, apart from myself, so lets give him the benefit of the doubt for his sexual behaviour. He is by no means a trouble maker to anyone, but I just hope he now he realises that his dirty thoughts have offended some lovely people and it won't be tolerated in the future.

We stand by our decision to keep him around because we get no satisfaction to terminate anyone, unless it comes down to a worst case scenario. Based on our decision, it's the own choice of everyone whether they want to stay or go, but we hope most people will stay with us, because I am still here as your lovely administrator and I have, and will continue to provide useful information about Laos.

Please do not leave :(.


llX wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Old Man you are one of our favorite LP member here. :) 8-) wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 4:42pm: wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 11:00am: Tells me pretty much what I need to know. OK. Best of luck with the website. Bye. Yeah. If this site is just for adolescent sexual banter, and members writing pointless posts just to get their post count up, it's obviously not for me either. Pity.... :'( Bye. Old Man

PEACE wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 10:08pm:

Please do not leave :(.

I’m afraid I will have to join the others who have left.  You see I thought it a good idea to promote Lao Pride locally so I distributed pictures like:

http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/thank-you-lao-pride.jpg


I’m embarrassed now at having done so.  I will be so ashamed if teachers or other people in Laos (or worse – children) see pictures like that, and as a result find their way to the Lao Pride site, look through an interesting  thread about  “English schools in Laos” posted by a member in Japan and read:


Quote:

Okay. Thanks for pointing that one out seaw. He's probably having the time of his life over in Japan anyway. He probably gets to 'spew' his yoghurt on the faces of all the pretty geisha over there.

What does that have to do with schools anyway?  He’s just indulging in his sexual fantasies in public.  And we are his public.

or by the same guy (Larb Dip) on another recent thread:


Quote:

By shoving a decent amount of greenback into the hoteliers breast pocket, you've instantly purchased yourself a new best friend. If summoned, he'll even assist in holding the camcorder for you when it's time to cockk and spray (pun intended) your unborn children around like a bottle of celebratory champagne.

And that’s not to even describe the constant flirtation and sexual innuendo between Larb Dip and Admin that has corrupted just about every thread on the site during the past few months.  I have nothing against people flirting as long as it’s done in private, i.e. by Personal Messages (PMs).  It would be easy for them to exchange such messages privately.  Why should the rest of us have to be exposed to it on practically every single thread on the board?
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Not only were these posts allowed by Lao Pride (they are still here) but when several members complained about them, Larb Dip received no kind of penalty at all and was even complemented and defended by the Administrators when another member suggested banning him.  Larb Dip is now gloating at length in what he sees as a ‘victory’.

On the international discussion forums I participate in, such posts would be not be allowed not only because they are pornographic, but also because they are seriously ‘off the topic’ of a particular thread.   Those sites have a hierachy of ‘penalties’ for transgressors of the rules.  For example:

1. Written warning
2. Second written warning.
3. Six month ban
4. One year ban
5. Permanent ban.

And the moderators enforce the rules gently but firmly.

If we want to read pornography or pick up sexual partners, there are tens of thousands of forums and chat rooms to choose from.   I had not expected Lao Pride to be so tolerant of such behaviour.

OLD MAN

There's no messages to suggest that I have been flirting with Larb Dip.

I agree that some of the things he said is out of line, but I didn't really understand what he meant at the time. If you go through some past posts, there have been some occasions where I've told him to elaborate his question or comment, because I just didn't know what he meant.

We don't want you to go, but we will respect whatever decision you make.

I see the whole story now and to be very honest I was not aware of all of his replies like these ones you'd mentioned and they do looked inapproriate for this forum.  I only read the amusing replies between Dip Larb and Admins.  

I still want to help out hte other school as well and how I can contact you?    
 

wrote on 8^th May, 2011 at 12:03am:

PEACE wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 10:08pm: Please do not leave :(. I’m afraid I will have to join the others who have left.  You see I thought it a good idea to promote Lao Pride locally so I distributed pictures like: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5638386895_cc29942ddf_z.jpg I’m embarrassed now at having done so.  I will be so ashamed if teachers or other people in Laos (or worse – children) see pictures like that, and as a result find their way to the Lao Pride site, look through an interesting  thread about  “English schools in Laos” posted by a member in Japan and read: Quote: Okay. Thanks for pointing that one out seaw. He's probably having the time of his life over in Japan anyway. He probably gets to 'spew' his yoghurt on the faces of all the pretty geisha over there. What does that have to do with schools anyway?  He’s just indulging in his sexual fantasies in public.  And we are his public. or by the same guy (Larb Dip) on another recent thread: [quote]By shoving a decent amount of greenback into the hoteliers breast pocket, you've instantly purchased yourself a new best friend. If summoned, he'll even assist in holding the camcorder for you when it's time to cockk and spray (pun intended) your unborn children around like a bottle of celebratory champagne.

And that’s not to even describe the constant flirtation and sexual innuendo between Larb Dip and Admin that has corrupted just about every thread on the site during the past few months.  I have nothing against people flirting as long as it’s done in private, i.e. by Personal Messages (PMs).  It would be easy for them to exchange such messages privately.  Why should the rest of us have to be exposed to it on practically every single thread on the board?
.
Not only were these posts allowed by Lao Pride (they are still here) but when several members complained about them, Larb Dip received no kind of penalty at all and was even complemented and defended by the Administrators when another member suggested banning him.  Larb Dip is now gloating at length in what he sees as a ‘victory’.

On the international discussion forums I participate in, such posts would be not be allowed not only because they are pornographic, but also because they are seriously ‘off the topic’ of a particular thread.   Those sites have a hierachy of ‘penalties’ for transgressors of the rules.  For example:

1. Written warning
2. Second written warning.
3. Six month ban
4. One year ban
5. Permanent ban.

And the moderators enforce the rules gently but firmly.

If we want to read pornography or pick up sexual partners, there are tens of thousands of forums and chat rooms to choose from.   I had not expected Lao Pride to be so tolerant of such behaviour.

OLD MAN


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his account could be temporarily banned, this is what they usually do on the other sites lolz, second time the person misconducts he gets a longer ban like say a couple more weeks, third time the account gets terminated. in my opinion its not worth keeping one member around if it means you lose others.

longhang wrote on 8^th May, 2011 at 9:56pm:

his account could be temporarily banned, this is what they usually do on the other sites lolz, second time the person misconducts he gets a longer ban like say a couple more weeks, third time the account gets terminated. in my opinion its not worth keeping one member around if it means you lose others.

I could live with that, Longhang.

What I can't live with is the current system where consistent abuse of the site incurs no penalty whatsoever. As you indicate, such a system works perfectly well on all other international discussion forums.

It's up to the administrators/owners of the site, but if a policy like the one you and I propose is not introduced, I will not be staying around here.

After such a policy is adopted, it needs to be applied.  This needs to be done gently but firmly and consistently by the administrators.  It would look something like:

1.  Admin says, "You've stepped over the line there - be careful, I'm watching you!"

2.  Admin says, "You did it again, so take this as your FIRST WRITTEN WARNING!"

3. Admin says, "This is your SECOND WRITTEN WARNING - you know what comes next!"

4.  Admin says, "You have gone way over the line now and will need to suffer a ONE MONTH BAN from this forum!"

5.  Too much!  I can’t believe you came back after a one month ban and did this again!  You are now BANNED FOR 6 MONTHS until you learn how to post respectfully and within our rules!"

6.  I can't believe you did this again!  YOUR BAN IS NOW PERMANENT!  Don't try coming back with a different username - you will be re-identified quickly and banned again!"

If such a policy were introduced and applied at Lao Pride, I would continue to contribute here and would do my best to encourage those members who have already left to return.


Old Man

If he says something offensive again, I will make it clear to him that his behaviour is unacceptable.

As for losing other members, if they want to go, then let them go. At least my team and I can rest easy knowing that we didn't ban anyone, and it's their own decision to leave.

At Lao Pride, we represent freedom of speech at its best, that's why we are giving him another chance to redeem himself. We don't have any problems with him from our end, but we can obviously see that many people do, so I will take a more serious approach with him from now on.

Cross my heart and hope to die.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th May, 2011 at 12:15am:

If he says something offensive again, I will make it clear to him that his behaviour is unacceptable.

You (and others) did that many, many times.  It doesn't stop him - he feeds on negative attention like that.  Merely being told off holds no downside for him at all.  Surely you have realized that by now.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th May, 2011 at 12:15am:

As for losing other members, if they want to go, then let them go. At least my team and I can rest easy knowing that we didn't ban anyone, and it's their own decision to leave.

Many are leaving.  Most likely myself too.  Longhang and I have offered you a fair system of sliding penalties (see above) that are simple to implement.  The first 3 on the sliding scale don't even involve a short ban, merely a warning.  Only repeated inappropriate behaviour leads to actual bans of varying lengths.  I can't see why you would choose to ignore our very constructive and fair solution.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th May, 2011 at 12:15am:

At Lao Pride, we represent freedom of speech at its best,

Hardly 'at its best' since it ignores the rights of others the freedom to choose.  If we choose to be exposed to pornography or are looking to pick up sex partners, there are thousands of dedicated internet sites we can go to.

On the other hand, if someone is interested in schools in Laos, does a Google search, finds and reads through a thread on the subject at Lao Pride only to end up reading about the most sexist and degrading kind of oral sex, their right to choose what to read about has been removed.

You didn't even reprimand him for those degrading and sexist oral sex posts, although I can perhaps understand that you didn't realize what he was saying.  He knew full well though and is taking advantage of your continued lenience to live out his sexual fantasies in public.  Lao Pride readers are his public.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th May, 2011 at 12:15am:

that's why we are giving him another chance to redeem himself.

And under your present system you'll give him another chance, then another, then another, then another chance.  Did you even read the proposed system Longhang and I are advocating?  


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th May, 2011 at 12:15am:

We don't have any problems with him from our end, but we can obviously see that many people do, so I will take a more serious approach with him from now on. Cross my heart and hope to die.

Maybe other members could give their thoughts on the simple system Longhang and I are suggesting.  The best discussion forums are those built up and managed with the democratically-expressed wishes of its members at heart - not as a dictatorship or at the whim of its owners. Look at the votes at the top of this thread to get an indication of the wishes of the majority of voters on this issue.

Two of your remaining members, Longhang and I, have given you a perfectly fair solution.  Continue to ignore it if you like but you won't be hearing from me again if you do.

At least I will have tried.


Old Man

Good idea.
:)


longhang wrote on 8^th May, 2011 at 9:56pm:

his account could be temporarily banned, this is what they usually do on the other sites lolz, second time the person misconducts he gets a longer ban like say a couple more weeks, third time the account gets terminated. in my opinion its not worth keeping one member around if it means you lose others.

I also need to get hold of Old Man about more school donation in the near future. Maybe we should ask for his email?
:)


PEACE wrote on 7^th May, 2011 at 10:08pm:

Please do not leave :(. llX wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 5:04pm: Old Man you are one of our favorite LP member here. :) 8-) wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 4:42pm: wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 11:00am: Tells me pretty much what I need to know. OK. Best of luck with the website. Bye. Yeah. If this site is just for adolescent sexual banter, and members writing pointless posts just to get their post count up, it's obviously not for me either. Pity.... :'( Bye. Old Man

Old Man, This is the internet. We've all accidently stumbled across pornographic language and images while surfing the web or doing searches, it's unavoidable.

Lao Pride isn't an adult site, I've already made this clear and simple, but when we allow discussions in relation to sex, sometimes people will go too far with it on other non related threads, which he seems to be doing. We've taken yours and Longhang's advice on board, and we will take a tougher stance against him if it happens again.

The number of members is irrelevant to us, although I'm always happy to help members with questions they may have about Laos. The most important thing for us is "visitors", and we will continue to provide information for our large numbers of visitors that come through our site every day. Having 0 members will not hurt us, but that's not trying to encourage you to leave. Your participation is also valuable to us, considering you also reside in Laos.

Dear Oldman,,why are you wasting your time on talking to Admin (Her or maybe him....) Maybe Admin and Larbdip is the same person! Internet can be very deceptive......if we don't like it...just the click away........