I  am a sincere nice lady from Lao; I live in Vientiane and Savannakhet.

I have a nice web site; http://www.noudsakhone.com

That site just proves that 80% of men in this world are dumb and 20% are smart.  ;)

I think that site was created by an angry westerner who was deceived by a woman believed to be Lao (or Issan).

Thank you for sharing the story with us, we usually don't allow advertisements on our site but on this occasion we don't have any problems because we want our visitors to be aware of the relationship dangers with someone that you don't really know their background. We hope people learn and that it doesn't happen to other westerners and foreigners.

I didn't know we supported free porn sites, but oh well.

Admin, I think you got it backwards. This just proves that all men are 100% horny and all women are scandalous. I don't think it's smart selling your body to a stranger and risk getting a disease like aids and if your parents are proud of this then they should not have anymore kids because they fail as parents.

In the west, prostition is illegal and you can go to jail for it if you are caught. I think the dude that paid $3500 got his money's worth and the stupid ones are the laos girls who sell themselves for cheap and make the rest of the population look bad by degrading themselves. Most westerners aren't deceived by Laos women, they went there for that reason, to pay for sex, and they are probably already married back in their own country. Either way, I think both are dumb.
http://prostitution.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=000119

Admin, how much are you worth? I make more than $3500 a month so can I buy you?

I find it sad that girls/women in Laos have to resort to selling themselves for money. Money isn't everything in this world. I don't really understand the meaning of that porn site. Are they trying to make Laos women look bad or recruit more prostitutes? I think that site should be shut down cause it is so wrong in many ways.

Welcome to Laos, the land of a million prostitutes.

You can buy another woman.

Prostitution isn't illegal in the west if you worked for a licensed company, such as an escort company and there is nothing to stop you from having sex with your customers. Prostitution is, however illegal if you sold your body independently.

Westerners are deceived because they are willing to pay Lao women before they even have sex. It's not uncommon for westerners to be tricked into sending money through Western Union in advance to make an arrangement to meet each other.

I think the site is intended to make people beware of the lady because of her bad history. I don't think it is purposely trying to make Lao women in general look bad or recruit more prostitutes, but it is to shock people that not every women are as nice as they appear to be.

I'm not sure where you get your info from but in the west, if you have sex and money is involved, it is called prostitution and you can go to jail. There is no such thing as a licensed company for prostitution, I almost laughed when I read that. An escort service is only legal when the service is for a woman to keep you company like a date. When the woman gives sex for money, then it becomes illegal and they can go to jail and the business gets charged and shut down. Any house or business that allows prostitution to occur will be charged with running a "bawdy house". I saw recently on the news that this woman posted to offer sex for some baseball world series tickets on craigslist. She got arrested for prostitution.

http://cbs5.com/sports/world.series.tickets.2.1273710.html

All foreigners know that prostitution is illegal in the west so they come to asia to prey on stupid asian girls who are hungry for money. They don't care about the price, $3500 for a year for a hooker is cheap cause in the west, they would have to go to jail for some time and pay some fines also which basically ruins your life cause you will have a criminal record and won't be able to get a decent job anymore.

Prostitution = illegal

Do you still think girls who are prostitutes are smart? How come all girls don't become one then if it's such a good job? Is your mom also a hooker, I mean prostitute and would you be proud of her if she was?

Why is it funny? Maybe you don't know your country too well.

You need to do some research about escort services.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_agency

It mentions that "The customer can negotiate an additional fee for any sex work services"

Also, in western countries they have many pornstars and amateurs who earn money from having sex on film. That too is considered prostitution. It is legal because the women work for a licensed company that is approved by the government. The woman who offered sex for a baseball game did it independently so she got arrested.

Prostitutes are not smart, the point of my message is to correct you and not what I think about prostitutes.

:-X :-/ :'( :-[
Shouldn't your story be filed in your secret diary? I don't think everybody want to know.  What is in your mind? Are you doing this to satisfy your soul? I am sure your life is more valuable than what you displayed.

I've lived in North America for over 30 years and you're telling me that I don't know my own country very well. I would't call wikipedia a trusted source of information. It's like they say, you can't believe everything you see on tv or the internet because anyone can put their opinion on there. What you see on tv and internet about the west is different from actually living here.

I think you need to do more research on the subject since you don't know what you are talking about still. Escort service only sets up a date, a meeting time and place, they cannot offer sex for sale. When the two people have sex for money, then it becomes illegal. Many massage parlours do this also, they advertise and claim to run a massage for clients, but behind the doors anything else can happen and that's when it becomes illegal and the police will shut it down. These businesses cannot say that they are selling sex (prostitution), they hide it by offering a "massage" or "companionship". How do I know about all this, it's because my friend was in this business. The police shut down his business.

"Escort services is usually described where companionship is hired for a night of entertainment or for more a night of intimate but non-sexual services, such as massage. For the most part, these services are legal in the U.S. The state legislatures however recognize the reality that escort services are part of the adult entertainment business and pass various measures to control these services and to ensure that they are distinct from prostitution which is illegal everywhere (except strangely some outlying districts of Nevada)."
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/10-18-2005-79210.asp

"From a legal perspective, escort agencies claim that they are dispatching these individuals to provide a social or conversational service, since prostitution laws often forbid taking payment for sex or communicating for the purpose of arranging a contract for sexual services."

"It is legal because the women work for a licensed company that is approved by the government."

Anyone from the west who reads that will laugh very hard. The government does not approve of prostitution, period. The government spends millions every year to fight prostitution. There is no "license" for prositution business, if you go and ask for that, you will be arrested. There are licenses for "adult entertainment" businesses which do not offer sex/prostitution, only watching and talking with strippers.

I think understanding the laws in the west are over your heads in Laos considering you don't even have traffic laws that make sense. People looking from the outside might think prostitution is legal cause they see it happening, but it is because the government cannot control all of it due to legal issues that are in the constitutions.

Porn walks a fine line between legality. It is very hard to prove and obtain evidence that prostitution is taking place.
"The Court noted that for an act to constitute prostitution, “the genitals, buttocks, or female breast, of either the prostitute or the customer must come in contact with some part of the body of the other for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of the customer or of the prostitute.”"
"Since the payment of the acting fees was the only payment, there was no evidence that any payment was made for the purpose of sexual gratification."

http://randazza.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/why-is-prostitution-illegal-but-pornography-is-not/

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/midwest/view.bg?articleid=1205383&srvc=rss

Some men use an escort service for the purpose of having sex, and some use the service because they need someone to talk to.

The adult entertainment business is the same as prostitution because people have sex for money, and not for love.

Anyone can edit Wikipedia if the information isn't true, also many other sites provide similar information. Furthermore, if you searched for information about escorts and brothels, there are thousands of agencies that provide sexual services. Some people in western countries told me they have paid for sex and the business they visited is legal.

It depends what business it is. Your friends business was shut down because it's not a licensed sex establishment. If it's a massage parlour then it should be just that. If you run a hair salon business then you can't provide any other service other than dealing with your customers hairstyle.

Can you show me what a sex establishment license looks like? I have never seen one before. Where can I get one of those license, what government agency can I get that from and how much does it cost? I think a lot of pimps and prostitutes would like to get one too so that the police won't bother them anymore. Can you tell me of a business that has one of these license?

Since there are thousands of brothels and escort services in the US, can you show me one that says they provide sexual services? I would like to see their website or address, or even a business name.

When men use an escort service and have sex with the woman and the police catch them, they go to jail, simple as that. Many men visit "massage studio's", "strip clubs", "adult entertainment" places and have sex with the women and then talk about it cause they did not get caught by the police, otherwise they would be sitting in jail. Any business can be legal, until there is money paid for sex, then it becomes illegal and the police can come and shut it down. The reason why these places still exist is because it is hard for the police to prove and obtain evidence that prostitution is occuring. Also, the gov't doesn't have enough money to fight this problem. It is the same with drugs, it is illegal but people still do it and I have seen where businesses get shut down for dealing with drugs.

I understand that Laos people don't have a very good understanding of how the laws work since Laos is still the wild wild west and money rules all. In Laos you can pay your way out of anything. In the west, you will only go to jail.

If someone can show me one of these sex license or an escort service in the US that advertises sexual services, then I will take back everything I said and bow down to you.

Sure, I'll tell you one of many thousands of businesses that offers sex.

Adult friend finder
http:// www. adult friend finder.com

According to the popular US based business, you can "meet real sex partners tonight".

Why aren't they in jail for providing sex services?

The answer is because it's legal, so deal with it.

I think you got the wrong idea here Lao Pride Administrator.....prostitution is not legal here in California....it's illegal...they're a lot of undercover too on the street....as soon as they got your voice on the tape recorder talking about money and sex....poww...it's jail time....no doubt. :'(

It's illegal to prostitute off the streets, but it's legal to work for a business that deals with sex.

The porn industry, escort, brothels, online sex industries are involved with money and sex.

Haha... This is getting funny. Trying to explain things to Lao people who live in Laos is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. They don't understand cause they've never witnessed it before, they've been living in their own bubble for over 30 years, how would they know how the rest of the world works. They always think that they are right also so they will never learn.

Those industries cannot sell sex for money, when they do, then they become illegal. The way they get around it is they pretend to only sell "companionship" like a dating service or porn which people can look at and they call it "adult entertainment" sometimes even "art". Porn is only legal in the US cause they can't prove that people had sex in exchange for money with the intent of sexual gratification.

Adult Friend Finder.com
Swingers, Free Adult Chat & Adult Personals Site
They only provide service for swinging, chatting and personal ads. No where do they say they are selling sex for money. Do you see a price for having sex with one of the girls? It only says "Find sex partners", this means finding girls who are willing to have consensual free sex like love as you say. When Laos people look at this, they get the wrong idea cause they don't understand the laws.
It only says "meet real sex partners tonight", it doesn't say you can pay for sex. If you meet with the girl and you both agree to have sex with NO money, then that's fine. But when you exhange money, then that's illegal.

Like Deklao said, there are undercover police who pretend to go to these businesses and websites to catch people paying money for sex. When they get caught, they go to jail. I see it on the news all the time. The business hires a lawyer and defends themselves by stating that they are not responsible for their employess/clients actions, and that the business does not in any way sell sex.

I find it very shocking that people in asia think prostitution is okay as long as it's in a busines

Will your mum advertise herself naked on an adult site like that because she wants to have free sex with a stranger?

Of course there is no price because the company doesn't know any of the girls. Any gifts is negotiated between the girl and her sex partner. Gifts can be anything such as dinner, jewellery and money.

There's many legal escorts and brothels where the guest can negotiate a price to have sex with a girl. That's why sometimes the price is not listed because they will vary according to the needs of the guest. Go to Nevada and visit one of the brothels and ask the manager if they have any girls available for sex in exchange for money, you'd be surprised from their response.

Obviously you have never witnessed it before either because you don't know that a business of this nature exist in western countries and not only in Asia. Some of us newer generation with education knows how the world works more than many of the worthless Laotian refugees who got chased out of Laos because they are a disease to our country.

Everyone knows why those websites advertise girls online, but the police cannot do anything about it until they catch them with evidence of money and sex. The laws here not only protect the innocent, they also sometimes protect the criminals since everyone is entitled to rights here in this country. It is called "due process", that's a new term for you to look up and educate yourself on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender

Meanwhile, illegal brothels are on the increase in Nevada, as they are in other parts of the world where brothels are legalised. Nevada's illegal prostitution industry is already nine times greater than the state's legal brothels. "Legalising this industry does not result in the closing down of illegal sex establishments," says Farley, "it merely gives them further permission to exist."

Now she's changing her story to just Nevada, I guess she's starting to learn something from my posts.

When people lose an argument, their first reaction is to become angry and start insulting others because they can't win a clean debate.  It just proves my earlier point about Laos people not being able to admit that they are wrong and that they always think they are right no matter what the evidence before them. This leads me to realise that the society isn't very developed at all socially and after 30 years of communist rule, there still exists the brain washing and "re-education".

If you are the newer generation with supposed "education" then you would at least know that prostitution is illegal in the west except for some parts of Nevada with population less than 400,000. I suppose most Laos people in Laos know more about the world than me even though most of them have never even left Laos.

I'm not trying to make a fool ouf of you, nor do I resent Laos people in Laos. I would like to teach them the truth because they have been oppressed for so long but it seems that most of them have the same attitude as I have witnessed here.

You insulted me so now we are even.

There are legal and illegal brothels in Nevada. Nevada is just a location in the USA, and need you be reminded that the USA is not the only country in the "west". I only brought it up because it's closer to you. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, England and most countries in Europe are western countries that have adult establishments where sex is available.

To say that most people in Laos have never left Laos is absurd considering that there are five countries next door to us. I know I'm right in our argument but I still like you, so lets just agree to disagree.

I think after all this talk, the only thing agreed upon is that the way of thinking of Laos people in Laos and from the west are different, yet we are both Lao. The reason I come here is to get a view point of how people think in Laos but it seems like the only Laos person on here is the admin. I wonder where the other Laos people are online. I thank you for giving me your thoughts, it is what I sort of expected. I hope you have learned something from me in return. Since I have one person who agrees with me, Deklao, that gives me 1 point, and 0 points for the admin, but no ones really keeping score anyways. I think the real issue is not whether prostitution is illegal or not, everyone can see that it is not good for anyone involved. It is sad that these girls don't have a better choice to make in life. I guess money is still higher than people in some places in this world.

I will leave you with some reading material:

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/33-Arrested-in-Florida-Escort-Service-Sting/1$37320
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-18928872.html
http://www.sunherald.com/local/story/1689397.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090506035412AAM2PP5

You win, if that makes you happy.

I'll send you a gold medal when I win the lottery. ::)

making a website is pointless, a vast majority of lao people don't use the internet......

farang kee nok. som num naa.

Agreed with you thakhek and buk hoo kee   :)

Noudsakhone  phone number;  +856 20 5083499  / +856 20  7479039

 for Lao people too :kee nok. som num naa.

lao lady wrote on 22^nd Nov, 2009 at 6:53pm:

for Lao people too :kee nok. som num naa.

What's going on?  Your wording look like thai idiom...

Dang...this is pretty mad a western guy...must got duped or something.  According to the domain this thing was actually either from South America or Cuba...could be Laos.  >:(


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"Worthless Laotian Refugee" Adm said,
Some maybe Yes, some are Not and some are working for LPDR.

Prostitution? Porn? Adult Entertianment? Escort Services and etc...?

To all,
If you never been there you never know its existing
Have you guys never heard about Carson City,Nevada USA.
Little small gost town outskirt of Las Vegas.
Legal for Adult Entertainment (only)with the limitation, (I been there)meaning anything can happen behind close door and whatever happenned in there its stay there.

Prostitution is Illegal in America( meaning pay to have sex) by Law is illegal.
Porn,Adult Entertainment and etc.. ( meaning just for shown,entertianment and art)

Paying to have sex is wrong ( illegal) in America
Paying to see is norm( legal ) in America

I am from Laos, first I had thought like most you guys too
I beleived Buck HK had explained most of its.

I am new at this! but I am not new at experience in life. I have been living in many country in the past. most of you here are think you know about other country law by reading or watching in the news. she(Admin) mention in the western country is legal as long as you have licence that is right like Australian and many country in Europe. American only have a few state that allow now  to make it legal.
I think you the people that don't know should just google it. Please what happened in the past about your ancestors suffered from the treatment this current government that is power, but most of them had passed away now. We should looking at the future of Laos instate of verging at each other and the past. The people that think about the past will never want to walk forward. Are just that person?
 

Buk Hoo Kee I think you need to understand as Lao Pride Administrator said that the USA is not the only country in the world those most americans think it is. Only 20 percent of Americans even have a passport which shows that most americans know very little about other countries.

Prostitution itself is not illegal in Australia. However: Street prostitution is illegal in New South Wales and Queensland (though not for the client) and allowed in Victoria if it doesn't happen near schools, churches or hospitals. New South Wales and Victoria allow licensed brothels.

http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/australia.html

Anyways just wanted to say in some places around the world it is legal. Whether this is right or wrong I dont care, just stating that it does exisit and in some place is legal tho in the USA it isnt.

All the best and have fun!

Moving to Laos to live in 1 month so looking forward to seeing the sights

Buk Hoo Kee, I'm on the board now with some points but not that we care. I agree that prostitution isn't good but it's still alive and well on planet Earth.

Troy, I hope you enjoy life in Laos and what it has to offer.