FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS. THIS WILL HELP THE LAO PEOPLE GET OFF POVERTY.

Corruption exists in every country because people are greedy or they are poorly paid. It can't be stopped but it can be minimised. What is Singapore like? I don't think that any country is perfect.

I know many rich people in Laos, but they like to act poor so that people don't steal from them, or they don't like to show off.

"Poorly paid", "Greedy" cause our human being to corrupt.( right on the money)you know what, you are a smart gal( alway have an answer for everything).Can I take you out for diner?

There is way there is wheel
There is question there is an answer( like U )

To my opinions:
1. Increase the salary up to (  2x,3x or 4x )
2. Enforce the Laws ( No one will be above the Laws )
3. Build more prisons ( Re-education Camp )

I do undertand why the corruption occurrence in every the developing countries just as Laos( Poor )

To stop completely can't be but can drop down to minimum level( yes )

If You or I be a president corruption will cease forever

I'm not smart, it's general knowledge facts. Everybody wants an increase in their salary but that's up to the employers.

I don't like to eat out because who knows how they cook the food, besides you are in the US.

Corruption is due to many factors but the main factor in this context is due to POVERTY and Government infrastructure. Government officials steal because they can get away with it, who will challenge them? You challenge them and you will find yourself in a lot of trouble yourself so people just turn a blind eye. ...You ask yourself "what can I do to stop this".....answer - Not a lot at all....it's sad but true.

Someone said that corruption happens in EVERY country...this is a bold statement and I would like to see some evidence of this...or is this just another wild statement.

Corruption can only stopped if people are punished for it. By punishment I mean, jail time or large fines...or both. Making people fear the punishment will deter anyone from corruption. Obviously in a developing country this takes time and they is no short term fix. I understand that corruption is taking place right this second but hopefully it can be managed and kept to a minimum and one day wiped out completely.

I'm the one who said that corruption happens in every country.

For example, you always hear reports about Government members in many countries using taxpayers money for their personal spending.

We knew, we have ears and eyes but ours seeing and hearing are totally different from you. For example: We are looking at the dog then we say that is a dog but  when you are looking it then you say that ain't a dog, that is a deer ( so you can BBQ them ).
"American love dogs they don't eat them, dog is a man best friend"


"CORRUPTION" is in OUR BLOOD don't deny. I am Laotian.

And these are in our blood too : " LAZY, TARDY, PARTY, TAKE IT EASY,EASY MONEY, QUICK CASH AND DON'T CARE"

And one an other thing is good about Lao :" We do not like violence we love peace"

The Vietnamese and Chinese taught Laotians to eat dogs and now cats, it's sad.

I don't want to generalise, just because some people have those bad traits doesn't necessarily mean that all Laotians are like that.

"Ying and Yang" is sign for "Good and Evil"

I feel you, you are a good person.

I have seen good citizens die for doing the right thing, and I have seen criminals live to a ripe old age. So don't destroy yourself by being too good or acting too smart !

Merry Christmas to you,
       Dallas

To stop Corruption is so easy....
Kick Buck Choummaly out and replace you ( Miss Adm) up there

The Old School has no knowledge of running the country but they do know how to make their pockets get bigger and bigger....that's good for them but not for the country.

Hi Guys and Gals,

Sorry to barge into the conversation but I find it interesting.  Corruption does exist everyone just at different levels and how acceptable it is.

What type of government do you have?  Sorry for my ignorance.

I don't think there is 1 right answer to STOP corruption. EVERYONE has a role in reducing/stopping corruption.

1. Greed - It starts with every individual. Everybody wants something for themselves. Some people don't know when or how much is enough
2. Moral and Ethical values - ຈະລິຍະທຳ, ສີນລະທຳ. Because the majority of the Laotian population lack education, therefore lack the principals of right and wrong.  In my opinion, sometimes you don't need to have education to DISTINGUISH between what is right vs. what is wrong.
3. Written Laws - There needs to be written laws for ALL people to see and know about, NOT just the people with authority/power, with prescribed punishments, like jail time and/or monetary fines. One of the biggest complaints westerners have is that LAO laws "lack transparency."  Meaning - Many written laws with punishments are not available or are "loosely written."  

True story - I went to visit Laos in 2007 for the first time sinceleaving in 1978. I was in Luang Prabang visiting wife's family. Her cousin's husband IS a tax collector (ອາກອນ) in LPB province. That guy built a big 2 story house with 4 bedrooms, nice big LR and kitchen. He drive a NEW Toyota Vigo! His wife is the accountant for LPB, his father in-law is Treasurer (ນາຍຄັງ) of LPB province. His wife sister is ຕມ at LPB airport. The average provincial worker earns what $30-$50 a month. Higher positions make upto $100-$200/month.  So tell me how the hell that guy has all that?  

Answer - CORRUPTION!  He collects what ever he wants when he WANT IT!  If you question him...the answer in "orders from high up" "ຜູ້ໃຫຍ່ສັ່ງມາ"

INDEPENDENCE is right. Corruption/Cheat is in our blood. If WE, adults don't change, don't teach children right and wrong, they too will be like that when they grow up.

Lastly - Those that are benefitting from corruption, there is NO WAY IN HELL they will change. Corruption happens at lower levels and $$ makes its way up!

WantLaosToBeIndependence, I have no knowledge about running a country to take their place. The current school is doing a fine job with the assistance from their highly skilled advisers.

Jason from Canada, the Government in Laos is a single party socialist state.

BorLeumBanGerd, your connections in Laos have professional jobs, that's great. I guess you have to put yourself in his position, would you be riding a bicycle and living in a wooden house if you were a tax collector? In Laos, people will look down at you. It's obvious that he is corrupted, but then again if another person replaced him they will do the same thing. It's unfortunate that the higher your position, the more corrupted you become.

And there no talk about up and coming new polictical parties? or maybe new leaders?  I assume the current party in power is not elected?

ADMIN..Your comment below....

BorLeumBanGerd, your connections in Laos have professional jobs, that's great. I guess you have to put yourself in his position, would you be riding a bicycle and living in a wooden house if you were a tax collector? In Laos, people will look down at you.

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So you are saying, for the "tax collector" to SAVE FACE and NOT be EMBARRASSED by his HIGH STATUS JOB, he has NO "RESPECTIBLE" transportation....HE NEEDS TO BE CORRUPT?  If I'm not mistaken, that's EXACTLY what you're saying! It also sounds like you APPROVE/CONDONE, this behavior?  

If I made a mistake, I truely am sorry. If not, please clearly explain your statement....

YOUR STATEMENT IS EXACTLY this type of ATTITUDE & REASON that LAOS as a PEOPLE and as a COUNTRY, WILL NOT PROGRESS, and catch up with some of the more modern countries.....where LAWS ARE CLEARLY WRITTEN and CLEARLY DEFINED, so people DO NOT commit crimes such as CORRUPTION and BRIBERY!

In Laos, NOBODY DARE TO SPEAK OUT or DARE TO REPORT! Also, WHO do you report to?  Because THE CORRUPTOR'S BOSS GETS A % OF THE $$$$.  If you DO SPEAK OUT and REPORT..now you've just made it WORSE!  Now you're the TARGET! YOU JUST PUT A "BULLSEYE" on your HEAD!

America is NOT perfect, there are crooks and criminals from the regular people to local, state and federal government.  BUT ONCE IT IS REPORTED, especially if its on TV or CNN, THEY FACE THE LAWS!

WHY & HOW >> Because FREE PEOPLE in FREE and DEMOCRATIC SOCITIES are NOT afraid to SPEAK UP/SPEAK OUT against ABUSIVE and CORRUPTED OFFICIALS

I WON'T LIE TO YOU, AND I'M VERY FAIR IT STILL DOES HAPPEN, BUT THEY ARE TRACKED DOWN, CAUGHT and face the laws!

So please ADMIN, further explain your statement.

POVERTY and LOW PAY ASSIDE...Do you approve/condone that type of behavior? Do you think it is right?  IT SOUNDED AS IF YOU DO...!

Jason wrote on 7^th Jan, 2010 at 7:26pm:

And there no talk about up and coming new polictical parties? or maybe new leaders?  I assume the current party in power is not elected?

Jason, Laos is a communist country and has ONLY 1 ruling party.

"Lao People's Revolutionary Party"

Anyone trying to form a new political body or "counter-party" IS PUT DOWN, SQUASHED!

Get my drift?

Understood.

Maybe someone has to organize some rallies for change.  

Power to the Loas people!  lol.  

Jason wrote on 7^th Jan, 2010 at 8:36pm:

Understood. Maybe someone has to organize some rallies for change.   Power to the Loas people!  lol.

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Jason,

I guess you really DID NOT UNDERSTAND my point.  

"Anyone trying to form a new political body or "counter-party" IS PUT DOWN, SQUASHED!"

COMMUNIST government(S) will NOT TOLERATE, PERMIT ANY "POLITICAL" RALLIES, PROTESTS OR DEMONSTRATIONS.  

Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 in CHINA is THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT EXAMPLE!  It was a peaceful protests by university students AND anyone else who wanted CHANGE, wanted FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!  

As a matter of fact 2009 marked the 20th anniversary of the student's PRO DEMOCRACY DEMONSTATION! IT TURNED OUT TO BE A MASSACRE!!

END RESULTS - "The official Chinese government figure is 241 dead, including soldiers, and 7,000 wounded."

Independent Humanitarian Organizations puts estimates closer to 1,000 DEAD and 1,000s more wounded!

Please see the articles. NOTE - These are respectible/reliable companies reporting:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/31/sunday/main5051952.shtml

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,970278,00.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/21/world/a-reassessment-of-how-many-died-in-the-military-crackdown-in-beijing.html?pagewanted=1

Jason, the leaders have only been elected in office for the past 3 or 4 years. There will be new leaders in the coming years because they are changed all the time.

BorLeumBanGerd, I don't approve or condone corruption, it is wrong but I've come to accept that it happens and there's nothing that anyone can do about it. Let God deal with them when their time is up on Earth, I just think of it that way.

Where is the evidence to backup our claim that the tax collector is corrupt? We know he has a nice house and car, but so does everybody else with a high status job. Also he most likely has protection, like you said his boss will most likely receive a percentage of the corrupted money, so by accusing him of wrongdoing we're in real trouble. He may even pay gangs to deal with you because he has money, so it's better to just leave him alone and not become involved in his business.

Wow, Thanks guys TT, Jason, BLBG

Very impressive with your guys comments, All good.
But I don't think those guys are see anything wrong. They're blind.

They eyes seeing things different from us.
Just hope, one day the Vientiane Wall will falling down

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 10^th Jan, 2010 at 7:34am:

Wow, Thanks guys TT, Jason, BLBG Very impressive with your guys comments, All good. But I don't think those guys are see anything wrong. They're blind. They eyes seeing things different from us. Just hope, one day the Vientiane Wall will falling down

INDEPENDENCE - I don't think they are BLIND.  ADMIN said in another post, ADMITTED IT and DID NOT DENY ANYTHING!  IT HAPPENS, but there is NOTHING PEOPLE CAN DO!

Like you said before in some other post - "Here no evil, see no evil!"
"Hed bap bor hoo, bor hen!"

ADMIN said in another post - "We are taught the 3 "bohs",
"bor hoo", "bor hen", "bor juk"

ADMIN said: "I don't approve or condone corruption, it is wrong but I've come to accept that it happens and there's nothing that anyone can do about it. Let God deal with them when their time is up on Earth, I just think of it that way."

I guess that's the POWER of communism, REGULAR, ORDINARY CITIZENS CAN NOT SAY OR DO ANYTING ABOUT IT.  IT IS WHAT IT IS...JUST LIVE WITH IT!

PEOPLE WHO SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT ARE CRUSHED!  FEAR OF PUNISHMENT KEEPS THE PEOPLE QUIET! PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO KEEP QUIET AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL DO THE SAME! THAT'S THE EXACT REASON BEHIND WHY LAO AS A PEOPLE AND AS A COUNTRY WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD.

I KNOW that it is easy for me as a Laotian living in America to SPEAK THE TRUTH because I live in FREE and DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, BUT that my fellow Laotians in LAOS CAN NOT!

TO their credit (government), We do see SOME CHANGE/development as far as economy, roads, running water, more businesses and higher per capita income...but more NEEDS to be done.

ALL I WANT IS FOR ALL LAOTIANS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BETTER LIFE... RICH OR POOR!  THAT OPPORTUNITY CAN ONLY BE PROVIDED IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE TO DO MORE TO HELP THE PEOPLE!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 12^th Jan, 2010 at 1:39pm:

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 10th Jan, 2010 at 7:34am: Wow, Thanks guys TT, Jason, BLBG Very impressive with your guys comments, All good. But I don't think those guys are see anything wrong. They're blind. They eyes seeing things different from us. Just hope, one day the Vientiane Wall will falling down INDEPENDENCE - I don't think they are BLIND.  ADMIN said in another post, ADMITTED IT and DID NOT DENY ANYTHING!  IT HAPPENS, but there is NOTHING PEOPLE CAN DO! Like you said before in some other post - "Here no evil, see no evil!" "Hed bap bor hoo, bor hen!" ADMIN said in another post - "We are taught the 3 "bohs", "bor hoo", "bor hen", "bor juk" ADMIN said: "I don't approve or condone corruption, it is wrong but I've come to accept that it happens and there's nothing that anyone can do about it. Let God deal with them when their time is up on Earth, I just think of it that way." I guess that's the POWER of communism, REGULAR, ORDINARY CITIZENS CAN NOT SAY OR DO ANYTING ABOUT IT.  IT IS WHAT IT IS...JUST LIVE WITH IT! PEOPLE WHO SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT ARE CRUSHED!  FEAR OF PUNISHMENT KEEPS THE PEOPLE QUIET! PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO KEEP QUIET AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL DO THE SAME! THAT'S THE EXACT REASON BEHIND WHY LAO AS A PEOPLE AND AS A COUNTRY WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW that it is easy for me as a Laotian living in America to SPEAK THE TRUTH because I live in FREE and DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, BUT that my fellow Laotians in LAOS CAN NOT! TO their credit (government), We do see SOME CHANGE/development as far as economy, roads, running water, more businesses and higher per capita income...but more NEEDS to be done. ALL I WANT IS FOR ALL LAOTIANS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BETTER LIFE... RICH OR POOR!  THAT OPPORTUNITY CAN ONLY BE PROVIDED IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE TO DO MORE TO HELP THE PEOPLE! HAPPY NEW YEAR! BLBG, I dont' think they understood what I was tried to do here. Dumb-Australia-Educators with the Communism Infected Virus( C1V1) , there is no Vaccine for these type of disease; only death care cure this disease. Most poor ppl are living in Laos have no access to the internet( we knew ) but we are trying to help them that is my intent. I had tried to drive my 2balls to 21ho( not hole ) it landed at wrong mouth. I have to asked that person very nicely to spit it out but I do not think he/she understood. I will try a little different tatics next times( call Reversal Communism Ideology ) I have had learnt from Nouhak Phoumsavanh at Seminar Camp in Laos. I am trying my best with my fourth grades education with very low QI (not IQ) to help the ppl with Hi-Ed-D-A+(C1V1) so they will see light again...... Just hope God willing to give me a strength to battle these diseases. Do you know the Communist didn't believed in God; They're belief in AK47. This is Sad.

NO MORE BS,

HAVE A NICE DAY,

TO STOP CORRUPTION IN LAOS
FIRST, THROW BUCK CHOUMMALY IN JAIL JUST LIKE THAILAND DID TO BUCK THUGSIN.

SEIZE ALL OF HIS PROPERTIES.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21^st Mar, 2010 at 11:11pm:

TO STOP CORRUPTION IN LAOS FIRST, THROW BUCK CHOUMMALY IN JAIL JUST LIKE THAILAND DID TO BUCK THUGSIN. SEIZE ALL OF HIS PROPERTIES.

It is easier said then done.  

Dharma is the answer!  :)

All of you guys sound so negative, look at the bright side...things are improving everyday, great wall of China wasn't built in 1 day.
20 years ago if Miss Admin start something like this, she would probably got put in re-education camp or disappear forever.
As for Miss Admin, if everyone fufils the obigation of a citizen to condemn the corruption, then the people in power will listen and be easier to control their subordinate, if we mind our own business then things will get worse and it will eventually effect us personally.
I do believe the guy at the top is geniunly want the country to be better, although some time ideology can get out of hand like in Germany and Cambodia.
As for 1 party rule infact it's not as bad as people think, the so call democratic nations try to brain wash people.
1 party rule in fact, they have opposition within the party as well, when ever there is a meeting, the majority decide the policy, but the oppostion's idea will be noted and recorded, if the policy failed, then the minority's idea will be examine and discussed (Majority not always right), China and Vietnam can advance so quickly is because of 1 party rule.
The reason why it didn't work before is that it's not one party rule...it's ONE PERSON RULE.
Anyway politic is a dirty word, if you guys are so concern, then take some real action like those revolutionist ( Lenin, Che, Mao etc...) and start an arm struggle, if you lucky enough to succeed, you probably think that you have worked so hard and now you deserve to own the country and act like them too. haha!

Marco, thanks.....

Any comments are good to me...It doesn't matter I agree or disagree. Its all good.

Purpose for me to come in here to wake my ppl up so they will see light again.....

if you thing Singapore is so good read this .....
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crimes/173015/candy-special-customers-the-bribe-taking-sex-hungry-policemen

Laos ranks 158st out of 180 countries in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index for 2009.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table


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