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Message started by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th Dec, 2009 at 8:09am

Title: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th Dec, 2009 at 8:09am
Feel free to express your vioce. Let those who are living over there hear us. Maybe one day they will wake up........


Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 20th Dec, 2009 at 8:59am
We don't like to talk, we let our actions do the talking.   ;)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th Dec, 2009 at 9:19am
Silence, Just like the Silencer.
I see, you probably don't want to go to Don Nang.
I knew those guys are mean not like us; We are friendly.

Well,let us(me) do the talking.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 20th Dec, 2009 at 9:33am
They say it's better to be quiet than to talk nonsense.

Sure, you can do the talking for us.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th Dec, 2009 at 9:44am
Have you ever heard about " Nonsense make sense"

"Nothing makes sense"
I have seen it all nothing makes sense !
People come, people go, but still the world never change.( communist come, I left, but Laos still there)

" Everything has its time"
There is also a time for love and hate, for war and peace.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 20th Dec, 2009 at 10:25pm
Something may make sense to the person speaking it, but how other people will understand the information is another story.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 21st Dec, 2009 at 1:01am
These word from God had spoken: " your eyes open but can't see,your ears open but can't hear otherwise you would turn to me"  I know the Communist comrades don't believe in God, they're believe in AK47. That how the jungle ppl are. They had been touhgt that way( brainwash) just like U.

Freedom of speech is the keys to help unlock the society to seek a new way of lives.

I want you guys to be like East Germany. Open your eyes then you will see the beautiful things in life before you die.
Let me ask you guys: Do you want to be like North Korea?
If the answer is (No) then turn Laos to be like East Germany.
We don't need war we need peace. Do it like East Germany did.
Just say:"NO MORE COMMUNIST"
            "WE WANT FREEDOM"

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 21st Dec, 2009 at 1:26am
I don't consider Laos a full communist, we are not like North Korea and we won't be like them. Laos is a beautiful and peaceful country. We just hosted a successful Southeast Asian Games and as Laotians, we are proud of our achievements.

If the world thought that Laos was a problem then they would shut us out completely. We would have foreign military forces in Laos today to deal with us.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 21st Dec, 2009 at 4:39am
So you said : Laos is half-Ass Communist " Not Full Communist" that was you're saying. This one I have to give you(+A)

1. They fear the people will know the dirty tactics of the Communism.  That why they're keep you guys to be quiet ( silence )

2.  If Laos is half-Ass Communist then North Korea is full Communist,right? So if these the case; Why don't you guys turn to be zero Communist like East Germany, can you guys do that. We ( the exile) will suport you 100% with Love and Respect your Leadership.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 21st Dec, 2009 at 6:15am
I have no control in the running of the country.

But at the moment, I don't have any problems with current political system in Laos.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 22nd Dec, 2009 at 8:45am
I knew you "have no control of running the country"
But in one of your comment I had read: " there is not enought light in the city of VT" when there are prenty to sell to nieghboring countries. Its these mean anything to you. I knew you are not a Dummie.

Speak for those who can't speak for themselves
Let those whom need to hear your vioce
Then they will see the light again
Condemn the Evil and Fight for Freedom
God have created all man are equal (same as the Communist used to said : Sar Hai Sar Hai Haow Tok Nam Hua Phieng Kan)

For you, you don't have to say anything if you don't want to
I do feel you.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 22nd Dec, 2009 at 11:45pm
I have no control over what is being sold to neighbouring countries.

You are right, I can't say anything.   :'(

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 25th Dec, 2009 at 7:25am
Just like I had said: " U don't have to say anything if U don't want 2"

Living in the Communist land, life is such a piece of property to the state. The persons or Govt officials will owe your life to the day you die. Such like the North Korea( Fully Communist ) No one can come in and No one can go out. To me, North Korea is prison. Ask yourself: Do you want to live in that land? If the answer is" NO" then you knew all the Communist are sorry( SU*K). Is There USSR still existing? They were the father of communism. Laos is just a little baby to the communist world. Why don't you guys grow up and stand on you own two feet and be who you want to be ( Independence ) be like the East Germany

Speak for those who can't speak for themselves

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 25th Dec, 2009 at 9:04pm
You have a valid point.

No Government likes to be criticised but some handle it better than others.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 26th Dec, 2009 at 8:39am
Finally, you're awake. I am very happy to see you, had come with the clear understanding in some points.

"FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is the key to open the darkness door that never had opened before.

One person speak out and ten persons will hear
Ten persons speak out and hundred or more will hear
On and on 6.6 mil will see the light shinning into Laos

Question is: Can you do it? You are smart person and sharp.
                 

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 26th Dec, 2009 at 11:04pm
You can come to Laos and do it, and I advise you to bring a mouth guard.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 28th Dec, 2009 at 5:34am
Mouth guard I don't need it, but the CONDOMS ( never leave home without it) especially in Laos there are bunches of HO-HOUSE in every corners. Sometimes you have to face with the fact, don't deny it. You live there you have to face with it. No matter what; you like it or not. Life have to go on.

You called us " worthless Laotians Refugee " Yes we are(never denied) and we love to break the US laws. We don't give a sh*t about it.





 

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 28th Dec, 2009 at 8:22am
I'm not denying anything. Laos isn't a perfect country but there are more positives than negatives.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 30th Dec, 2009 at 11:31pm
I will make it clear to you, I will go into the points so you can open your eyes and ears.

Since the end of WWII, most of the Communist states were existed in the Eastern Europe then spreaded through out Southeast Asia and Latin American.

After the Berlin Wall had fallen down; The USSR were collapsed( The GrandFather of Communism was Death) the cold war was OVER.   But the new era of the new Communism are taking place ( Communist Corruptors ) are seek the way to boost up theirs economy, so they had to find the way to make money and also they can keep their legacy alive. While are trying to changing and also to correcting the money( $$$$ )as fast as they can. Look at the USSR and the Balltics states had to separated aparts. Each of them want to be Independence of their own. They were stonger than Laos today. Why your current leaders are still living in the cave? To me; I knew they not the dummy. They just want to stay in the power so they have to keep you guys to be silence (No freedom of speech) in this case its so easy to control the country ( no one would have say anything or  dare to challenge them ).

In fact most of your curent leaders are half Viet or Full Viet; they just don't want the public to known about it( cover the sh*t up).

Kaysone Phomvihane was Viet-Lao ( Father Nguyen Cai Song ) I be wonder how the hell did he end up with the lastname "Phomvihane" when his dad lastname was "Nguyen" or " Cai Song" and also he married "Em Viet"( Vinh )to all of these reasons that why they don't want the public to know. Most of our ppl don't like to bow their heads to Vietnamese(Keow)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 31st Dec, 2009 at 12:52am
None of the current leaders in Laos have Vietnamese blood. Kaysone is a Vietnamese-Laotian, but he passed away years ago.

You seem racist.

You don't need be a full-blooded person of a country to run the country. The current leader of Australia is of Irish descent, Thailand's leader is a Chinese and your American leader is a black African. Does that make them bad people?

People should be judged on their merit and not their ethnic and racial groups.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 31st Dec, 2009 at 8:25pm
Now, I see. you are one of them. Anyway I do feel you.Don't get mad at me. I just like to say a weirds words most ppl won't say it. I am who I am. I am living in the land of the free. We have the right to express our opinions to any degree; especially," Me"

"Nouhak phoumsavanh" full blood Vietnamese, ain't born in Laos either. You can lie but can't hide or you can lie to the Dummy not to us(exile). That why they don't want you guys have the freedom of speech. So you guys can pretend to be the Dummy.......I do know you guys are smart but can't do anything about it, I feel you.

In Oct 1999, the peaceful protesters took place in VT got round up in prisons or vanished without trace. Laos had violation of human right activist, some of them died in prison and most of them are still behind bar.

You are telling me Laos have more positives than negatives, Wow You are really blind. Hay gal, Please wake up and open your eyes.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 31st Dec, 2009 at 11:40pm
He is half Vietnamese, he also passed away years ago. His race doesn't matter, what matters is that he is competent and able to do a good job.

The current leaders in Laos are ethnic Laotians. Someone other than full Lao, with mixed ethnic origins will lead the country in the future so you need to accept the facts.

As far as protesting is concerned, the protests knew the consequences if they participated. There is a law to be followed so what can you do. If you don't like the law and you are not prepared to abide by this law then Laos is not the place for you to be. It is not my law so don't get mad at me, you can't protest whilst in Laos.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 1st Jan, 2010 at 1:36am
Adm, you are the Communist Dictator :)....Ha ha ha :)........ :) :) :)
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL HUMAN BEING ARE STILL LIVING IN THIS PLANET EARTH. ( forget about the DEATH )

Let get back to the subject, foget about your death presidents; they are useless.

" FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is the freedom to speak without censorship or limitation.
Tell me(us)  why Laos doesn't has it? ( I really want to know )

*  Feel Free to Express your Opinions *




Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 1st Jan, 2010 at 2:59am
You are free to talk about anything in Laos including anything in relation to the government, provided that it doesn't offend them.

In Laos, people treat the President like a King.

In Thailand, Thais must respect their King just like Laotians must respect our President.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 12:32am
Jan 2010

I think it's "time to change" let the new generations running the country, let the lao people pick their own president( Free Election ). 35 yrs living in darkness of one party rule( Communist Party ) its extremely nightmare to Lao people ( Enough should be Enough ) we don't need war to resolve this problem, only need one good person in that "Communist Party" to stand up.

" SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES " they will respect you.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 1:01am
He is the new generation. He has only been the President for three years.

No, no, no, I don't want to vote, so please don't oblige people to vote.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 1:29am
Time to Change
Time to Stand Up
Time to be Free ( pen issara )
Time to Open Your Eyes and Ears( pirt huu pirt taa )
Time to Stop the Corruption( Keen Zard )
Time to Clean Up the mess ( protitution/hooker )

I know its not easy...........but it has to start somewhere....

"PRESERVE FOR LAO/LAOS"


Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 2:05am
It's easier said than done because you don't live in Laos.

We were taught the three "boh's".

Boh hoo, boh hen, boh juck.    :-/


Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 2:55am
Call :" 3 monkeys "( see no evil, hear no evil, know no evil )

Maybe if we start someshit up then LPDR will respond in the good maner. Just talk and talk they say: It ain't going to get job done.
Action have to take place somewhere.....( in Laos )

Have you ever hear about " HUNTED LIKE ANIMALS " its happened in Laos ( Hmong-Lao) they are Lao too.

I knew this really happening in Laos; I have my source in (LPA). They are related to me. (Hight Ranking Officers are serving in Lao military today) they used to be poor now they are rich.

They told me " Lao didn't want to do it but Viet pushed them to do it "
In these case I come to understand Lao is under control of Vietnamese.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 2nd Jan, 2010 at 4:10am
I guess that speaks for itself.

No I don't know. I see plenty of Hmongs in Laos so what is all the fuss about. Do you know that the governor of Vientiane is a Hmong? I eat fur occasionally at a Hmong owned restaurant, they serve clean and tasty dishes. Those who are being hunted down are possibly illegal immigrants or breaking the law in one way or another.

Vietnam is more advanced than Laos, they are also our neighbour so they assist us in any way they can.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 3rd Jan, 2010 at 6:47am
I believed you knew more than we(exiles)do.
Presently, I'm seeing  Laos is Communism mix with Capitalism. Its times to grab quick cash and pile it up much as you can before the civilization will kicking in. Only the people whom have the power and Ass-Kissers will be the rich. The one whom haven't had the connection with these people will left out and face the harshly economic downfall.

Lao's Laws never made for the Govt Officials to obey only to the civilians ( Fact )
In 1991 Laos adopted its first constitution to guarantee the people of Lao to have the freedom of speech, assembly and religion but its never been effective.
In 2005 Laos had passed the Anti-Corruption Law signed by Khamtai Siphandone ( himself )

The rich will get richer and the poor will be poor unless they are willing to kiss-ass.

I'm saying these base on the fact and reality in Laos. The Old regime were did it before and the New regime are doing the same. Nothing had changed, same old same old.

TIME TO CHANGE




Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 3rd Jan, 2010 at 8:33am
You've made some valid points but I believe that Laos is a better country than what it used to be. I would rather live in Laos than the other countries around us, that's for sure.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 5th Jan, 2010 at 8:38am
Wow, this is good...... You should thanks me for motivated your website. Since I had started the BullShit up, seem like we have ppl from every corners of world have jumping in. Before then this site its just like the ghost site(Fact), ally I saw you(Adm) and BHK and less.....not that much. This is going to be real good for the Laos future, I believed.

Anyway, just like I had told you; I am a weird person. I might say things you guys won't say; I might like the stuffs you guys won't like it. I am who I am. I don't belong to any groups. ( You be nice me I be nice with you; if you are mean to me I will mean you ) this is "ME". I know right/wrong and hot/cold. I also do not bow my head to the Old regime and the New regime either. If any one have problem with that then I can't help it. No one can change me. My parent used to told me to nice to all human being but I did, only to the ppl whom had been nice to me beside that I just tell them "Go kill yourself, If you couldn't do it then you need to learn how to like me".

This subject is about " FREEDOM OF SPEECH "  if any one out there can't understand what is meaning then you need to get the rope.

Peace be upon who seek peace,
   Lao DFW, TX US(Laos)


Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 5th Jan, 2010 at 10:41pm
Maybe you should be thanking us instead for creating a wonderful and useful site so that you can exercise your freedom of speech.

They say along with free speech comes responsibility, especially in Laos where sensitive issues is an area that I can't talk about. You're abit luckier than me.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 6th Jan, 2010 at 9:19am
I do, Thank you. You are the brave, I wish there are alot like you living in Laos. IF I have a chance to see Laos again I will take you out for diner, if you don't mind. I knew you have a boyfriend but that can be change....Ha ha ha( don't mind me) I bet I look better than your boyfriend.....If you see me you will like me.

"Freedom of speech" is for every living creatures live in this planet earth have the right to barking , saying or singing.

I do understand why Lao ppl living in Laos don't like to talk about it. You have a bone stuck inside your throat it hard to swallow or spit it out. Its sad.

Thanks again, and stop staring at me. You made me falling in love with you.....comon don't do that Ok....

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 6th Jan, 2010 at 11:09pm
You have a point there, I'm not married yet. If you're not staring at me, then you wouldn't know that I'm staring at you. It takes two to tango.

There's freedom of speech in Laos, the only exception is you can't attack Lao politics.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by BorLeumBanGerd on 7th Jan, 2010 at 5:14pm

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21st Dec, 2009 at 4:39am:
So you said : Laos is half-Ass Communist " Not Full Communist" that was you're saying. This one I have to give you(+A)

1. They fear the people will know the dirty tactics of the Communism.  That why they're keep you guys to be quiet ( silence )

2.  If Laos is half-Ass Communist then North Korea is full Communist,right? So if these the case; Why don't you guys turn to be zero Communist like East Germany, can you guys do that. We ( the exile) will suport you 100% with Love and Respect your Leadership.



HAHHAAHA!! LMAO!!

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by BorLeumBanGerd on 7th Jan, 2010 at 6:11pm
Wow man...these are some HOT ISSUES being discussed here!  I wonder why I never saw this site before??? Anyways....at least there is a DISCUSSION. ALMOST 1 SIDED by INDEPENDENCE!

"Independence" to me...makes very [i]VALID
points and brings up important issues that affect Laos today AND obviously is taking FULL ADVANTAGE of "FREEDOM OF SPEECH!" which is a RIGHT in AMERICA!

"ADMIN" - (note-If I insult you..please don't take as such...it's just my opinion based on your comments/responses to "INDENPENDENCE"

If I may say so..from what I've seen from your responses ADMIN seems well educated based on some of the words and phrases, almost educated outside of Laos, perhaps Australia?  In many responses/comments, ADMIN seems to ALMOST make excuses for current Lao government.  ADMIN has no direct answer, but has an answer. But you also agree that INDEPENDENCE has many valid points! You're NOT denying it all all!  BUT, it seems you don't want to comment on it DIRECTLY! It seems that way to me?

ADMIN knows about the issues, understands the issues, and I BET some issues, ADMIN would like to see CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, but DOES NOT DARE TO OPENLY COMMENT.

I say this b/c ADMIN, some of your responses are like,
"I have no control in running the country"
"I have no control over what is being sold to neighbouring countries"
"You are right, I can't say anything. :'("  One comment ADMIN said "I'm not denying anything"

And this comment below HITS IT NAIL ON THE HEAD!  EXACTLY WHAT INDEPENDENCE IS TRYING TO DISCUSS IN THIS POST: "FREEDOM OF SPEECH!ADMIN says - "It's easier said than done because you don't live in Laos. "We were taught the three "boh's". Boh hoo, boh hen, boh juck."

BINGO!!!  "we are taught the 3 bohs, 'boh hoo, boh hen, boh juck"

To me this statement is clearly representative of a communist policy, where people are told to "turn a blind eye" and keep your mouth shut! Just obe

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by BorLeumBanGerd on 7th Jan, 2010 at 6:27pm
<<Continued...sorry ran out of room on last comment.

To me this statement is clearly REPRESENTATIVE of a communist policy, where people are TAUGHT to "turn a blind eye" and keep your mouth shut!  JUST OBEY  THE LAW! DON'T QUESTION OR CHALLENGE IT!  DON'T QUESTION OR CHALLENGE THOSE WITH AUTHORITY!

Perfect example of communism's OPPRESSIVE & REPRESSIVE policies!
NO PROTESTS, NO DEMONSTRATIONS, CAN'T SPEAK OUT!  JUST DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD!

Hence> It's policies like these that leads to ABUSE & CORRUPTION mostly by people with authority and power from local police to the tax man, to village leader....HECK ANYBODY WITH POWER!! Money $$$ makes its way up to the top!

SAD BUT TRUE!!

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by BorLeumBanGerd on 7th Jan, 2010 at 10:03pm
INDEPENDENCE wrote:

Kaysone Phomvihane was Viet-Lao ( Father Nguyen Cai Song ) I be wonder how the hell did he end up with the lastname "Phomvihane" when his dad lastname was "Nguyen" or " Cai Song" and also he married "Em Viet"( Vinh )to all of these reasons that why they don't want the p..."

>>

I read somewhere Phomvihane was born "Nguyen Cai Song" to a Vietnamese father, "Nguyen Tri Loan"...and he married a Laos girl from Na Seng?

So which one is correct??

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 8th Jan, 2010 at 1:43am
I never feel insulted and I welcome freedom of speech as long as it is the right tune.

You understand just as well as we do in Laos. Questioning/challenging the law will put oneself in jeopardy so I don't want to push my comments beyond the limit.

The team and I support the current Lao Government, if we didn't then we wouldn't be displaying their flag on Laopride.com so it's evident that we are behind them 100%.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 8th Jan, 2010 at 2:30am
Ignorance is bliss.

Let's drink some Beer Lao and listen to Moh Lum and watch poo sao fohn.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 8th Jan, 2010 at 4:27am
That's the way of thinking in Laos. We will leave the authorities to fix what needs to be fixed.

Drink some coconut juice and relax at home.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 10th Jan, 2010 at 7:58am

Just hope you guys will wake up and be free......

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 10th Jan, 2010 at 9:02am
We feel happy and free inside, that's all that counts.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 16th Jan, 2010 at 7:46am
May God have mercy on you....

Have a nice day,
 Dallas Siharath

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 21st Mar, 2010 at 11:04pm
TODAY IN LAOS, THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR KEOW COMMUNIST ONLY. BUT NOT FOR LAO PPL.


Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by JACKSPADE on 22nd Mar, 2010 at 5:18am

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21st Mar, 2010 at 11:04pm:
TODAY IN LAOS, THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR KEOW COMMUNIST ONLY. BUT NOT FOR LAO PPL.



Laos is in fact changing, the current system of government is slowly deteriorating.  You have got to at least see that.   Ever since the door is opened to the world, people (the public) now have access to any world information and technology.  Nothing is going to stop them there.  Freedom of speech will occur in due time.  All we can do is try to educate our people, and then wait and see.  



Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 27th Mar, 2010 at 9:20am
WELL SAYING MY MAN.....

I JUST HOPE FOR THE WORSE NOT FOR FOR THE BEST.

NEGATIVE HAS TO COME BEFORE POSITIVE
IT TAKE 2 NEGATIVES TO BECAME A POSITIVE
35 YRS AND ANOTHER 35YRS.

I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO MAKE IT.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by macro on 28th Mar, 2010 at 11:50am
This guy must be working for CIA and like to stir things up.
Before criticise others look at your master.
If it's so free where you live then:
1.Can you openly praise Mr Ladin and promote his idea ?
2.Why you have to bomb French journalist and kill Italian journalist just because they're independant reporter and not "in bed" with your troops?
3. why do you bug your own people?
4.why you have to force UN to immune you from war crime charges?
5.why you have to set up prison outside your juridition?
I think the world will be a better place if everybody look at themselves before cricitise others.
Mr Independant I think you've been brain wash by them and think that they're the best, the rest of the world are morons and must listen to them except one country...too sensitive to talk about.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by BorLeumBanGerd on 11th Aug, 2010 at 2:00am

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 27th Mar, 2010 at 9:20am:
WELL SAYING MY MAN.....

I JUST HOPE FOR THE WORSE NOT FOR FOR THE BEST.

NEGATIVE HAS TO COME BEFORE POSITIVE
IT TAKE 2 NEGATIVES TO BECAME A POSITIVE
35 YRS AND ANOTHER 35YRS.

I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO MAKE IT.


hahaha.. hello uncle INDEPENDENCE!.. You're still in here? It's been almost 9 months since I last signed in... and still nothing new..

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 11th Aug, 2010 at 3:14am

OMD wrote on 22nd Mar, 2010 at 5:18am:

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21st Mar, 2010 at 11:04pm:
TODAY IN LAOS, THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR KEOW COMMUNIST ONLY. BUT NOT FOR LAO PPL.



Laos is in fact changing, the current system of government is slowly deteriorating.  You have got to at least see that.   Ever since the door is opened to the world, people (the public) now have access to any world information and technology.  Nothing is going to stop them there.  Freedom of speech will occur in due time.  All we can do is try to educate our people, and then wait and see.  


I hope Laos will change to free state soon. That mean end of Vietnam control. Communist country are Cuba and North Korea. They shut their door, but Laos is open so there is hope and better future.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 11th Aug, 2010 at 3:18am
Don't really care about politics. Just want to see Laos develop and wealthy. Want to see Lao people to have good jobs, opportunity and live a good life. Better education, health care. If Communist can do that they got my vote. Singapore is a good example, a one party dictator system. I like that though. Government done a great jobs developed the country and look after their citizens.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 11th Aug, 2010 at 3:21am

macro wrote on 28th Mar, 2010 at 11:50am:
This guy must be working for CIA and like to stir things up.
Before criticise others look at your master.
If it's so free where you live then:
1.Can you openly praise Mr Ladin and promote his idea ?
2.Why you have to bomb French journalist and kill Italian journalist just because they're independant reporter and not "in bed" with your troops?
3. why do you bug your own people?
4.why you have to force UN to immune you from war crime charges?
5.why you have to set up prison outside your juridition?
I think the world will be a better place if everybody look at themselves before cricitise others.
Mr Independant I think you've been brain wash by them and think that they're the best, the rest of the world are morons and must listen to them except one country...too sensitive to talk about.


I think Wantlaostobeindpendence guy is Hmong American.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by longhang on 11th Aug, 2010 at 3:50am
laos is going through a faze, it was once a country ruled by a king now the people have stood up and took control but these people who took control were once kings them self and that's the problem. the country needs a democracy where all citizens can vote and it needs a strong friendship with the U.S or LAOS will always be push around by its neighbors. that's right folks LAOS needs to 1) develop their own nuclear missiles or buy some from the U.S since china probably wont sell them any trust me.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 11th Aug, 2010 at 4:05am
We can't forget that the US and the present party of Laos fought against each other.

But having said that, everybody has moved on, wounds are healed and the friendship between Laos and the US is better than it once was.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 13th Aug, 2010 at 10:22pm

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 11th Aug, 2010 at 4:05am:
We can't forget that the US and the present party of Laos fought against each other.

But having said that, everybody has moved on, wounds are healed and the friendship between Laos and the US is better than it once was.

You are right... ;)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 13th Aug, 2010 at 10:30pm
Laos need freedom and democracy so we won't be under foreigner power control (Vietnam) anymore. So we LAO the mighty LAN XANG can control our own future an destiny. Laos is at peace so 75,000 Vietnamese troops is no longer need in Laos. So go back to Vietnam. You were ask to help  kick out the French, but not to colonizing and taking over Laos.
>:(

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 13th Aug, 2010 at 11:47pm
I don't see any Vietnamese troops in Laos. Maybe they are stationed in the remote areas because I know there's some, but I didn't know there's 75,000. Interesting.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 14th Aug, 2010 at 1:19am

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 13th Aug, 2010 at 11:47pm:
I don't see any Vietnamese troops in Laos. Maybe they are stationed in the remote areas because I know there's some, but I didn't know there's 75,000. Interesting.


There is Vietnam military base in Laos. They're not going to let people know. They are there since 1975.
8-)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 14th Aug, 2010 at 3:20am
If they don't let people know, then how do you know about it?

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 14th Aug, 2010 at 12:59pm

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14th Aug, 2010 at 3:20am:
If they don't let people know, then how do you know about it?

Common sense. Do some research. That's how you colonize a country, set up puppet government, military base to protect your interest, flood country with immigrant and build uncle Ho statue. They called it neocolonization.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 14th Aug, 2010 at 11:26pm
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I learn something new every day.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 15th Aug, 2010 at 1:47am

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14th Aug, 2010 at 11:26pm:
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I learn something new every day.

Its nice to meet you, and learn more about Laos. I also thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. I like to debate. There are many thing that I don't know, that we can learn from each other. I'm no expert, but I like to follow world news, current event, Europe, Asia, North America, Africa, Middle East and so on. Plus I has lot of free time sitting around at work or at home with my iPhone.
::)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 15th Aug, 2010 at 1:52am
:D 8-) ;) :)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 15th Aug, 2010 at 11:24pm
Maybe America is changing from Capitalism to Communism as this picture suggests.






Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 16th Aug, 2010 at 2:22am

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15th Aug, 2010 at 11:24pm:
Maybe America is changing from Capitalism to Communism as this picture suggests.





Laos are opening up to Capitalist, and welcome foreigner investment. Not like Cuba and North Korea. These day it all about money and business. China is a good example. Laos will become a democracy states in the near future. Laos
will become wealthy and prosper. Everybody will want to come to Laos to seek opportunity.

American is not perfect. But I like the way it is. That is why million from around the world want to move here. They take good care of the poor, young, old, disable, and working class very well. That is what Socialist try to accomplish, but US had already accomplish it.
8-)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Pride Administrator on 16th Aug, 2010 at 11:28am
The number of foreigners making a living in Laos have grown over the years, whether they have a business or working with non-government organisations (NGOs). But no one can deny that America have more opportunities in the world.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 16th Aug, 2010 at 2:16pm

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16th Aug, 2010 at 11:28am:
The number of foreigners making a living in Laos have grown over the years, whether they have a business or working with non-government organisations (NGOs). But no one can deny that America have more opportunities in the world.

Laos has potential for grow, and economy is booming, population will also boom. In the near future Laos will become a democracy states. I hope.  :)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 16th Aug, 2010 at 2:55pm
Laos should look up to Japan or Singapore. Learn from the best. Not North Korea or Cuba.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by macro on 16th Aug, 2010 at 2:55pm
Please look closely to US history, US is built on slavery and lies, please correct me if I were wrong:

1. American paying more taxes now then under British rule.
2. Majority of the immigrants are from poor countries, the wage gap of the minimum wages (many earn under that) and the elite is over 100 times.
3. America allow illegal immigrant to work (the reason is big business need a source of cheap labour, well, it's form of slavery isn't it ?)
4. America has a low minimum wages among OECD.
5. America lied to it's citizen to start the VN war, Middle East war so the rich can sell their hardware.
6. Wall street engineered the great depression and the financial crisis.
7. US justice is base on how much money you have. Whoever can spend the most wins the election.
8. US freedom is you can do anything as long as not to criticise the government and their policies.
Well, if I have to go on probably take me a week, just to cut the story short, America just like the old Ching Dynasty in China, it was a great country and they were brain-washed to believe they're the center of the world, everything they do, know, own is the best, without realise that the world around them has progressed.
This is why US economy is in bad shape, politician blame it on wages and try to bring it down, look at Singapore, Germany, France, Swiss etc..., their min wages is no less than US, they're doing fine, the problem is too many people in US doing non productive work and got pay highest.
Anyway, not many people in OECD want to go to live and work in US, certainly not me, I was there few times, it's great to visit, to live there and work no, If I was a lawyer or banker then it will be different.
By the way, In Australia, technically you can claim unemployment benefit from 16 till you 65 then go on age pension till you die, oh, medical is free as well with housing subsidies, we also have a trade surplus, our government is debt free until the financial crisis, our unemployment rate is around 5%, our average national income is $US 43000, around $2000 less than US, the different is most of us earn that, in US a few earn lot and lot more than 45k, many earn a lot lower than the average.
Those got pay highest are the slave driver to make sure the slave perform to expectation.

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 16th Aug, 2010 at 3:06pm
Macro yes. There is pro and con. I has to admit Australia is pretty nice country too. US population is around 300 million. They can't afford to let everybody have free health care or unemployment benefits from age 16-65. The system will go broke. That mean nobody will want to go to work. If they're getting a hand out. In Capitalist the elite and big croporation are doing very well, but at the end of the day average people, poor also benefits. Rich, big business created job and opportunity. Most US citizens are middle class. US is undisputed the world economic superpower. They know what they are doing.
8-)

Title: Re: Why Laos does not have the freedom of speech?
Post by Lao Lan Xang on 16th Aug, 2010 at 3:27pm
Macro I though US and Aussie are buddy. Take it easy bro.
8-) :-?

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