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Message started by ba dac on 29th Jul, 2013 at 11:46am

Title: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 29th Jul, 2013 at 11:46am
Ok here the thing .I've see Burma gone from a military rule to
a democracy.It could happen in Laos too  ::)  So let say if you were the boss what would you do ? As for me I would open up that country.You wanna buy land sure why not.
You wanna open plant for manufacturing we have plenty
of manual labors for ya.Basically i'm gonna be asking whoever
can bring the great ideas and develope this counrty to be an
awesome place.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Admin Saovaluck on 29th Jul, 2013 at 12:02pm
I would do the same thing that the current President is doing.

If I dramatically change things, I won't last long as President in a one party system. Members of the party only want someone to be President if they follow the party line and policies, if I don't do that then they'll get rid of me quickly.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 29th Jul, 2013 at 1:09pm
I respect Ba Dac idea and I will follow the Admin steps.  :applause

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 29th Jul, 2013 at 1:12pm
Kick out the Vietnamese and Thai and build a strong relationship with the Khmers. I would purge any political opponents, impose a Maoist style 'Cultural Revolution' to eliminate corruption and inequality from top to bottom and expel the wealthy for selling the country out.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 29th Jul, 2013 at 1:14pm
You are a real cowboy!!!!!!

A real commie cowoby! :hug


TexasCowboy wrote on 29th Jul, 2013 at 1:12pm:
Kick out the Vietnamese and Thai and build a strong relationship with the Khmers. I would purge any political opponents, impose a Maoist style 'Cultural Revolution' to eliminate corruption and inequality from top to bottom and expel the wealthy for selling the country out.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 29th Jul, 2013 at 2:02pm

TexasCowboy wrote on 29th Jul, 2013 at 1:12pm:
Kick out the Vietnamese and Thai and build a strong relationship with the Khmers. I would purge any political opponents, impose a Maoist style 'Cultural Revolution' to eliminate corruption and inequality from top to bottom and expel the wealthy for selling the country out.


Cultural Revolution don't ever work bro.Look at China now
they have so much corruption among the top communist party.You always gonna need wealthy people .The wealthy
here or any other places create jobs. I would welcome any
political opponents.Let the people choose who should lead their country.That's the true democracy.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 29th Jul, 2013 at 6:10pm
Here would be my 1st priority if I was President Moon:

(1) Immediately establish all land area near the border of Burma, China, Vetnam and Cambodia as 'wildlife sanctuary and national forest' in compliance with, backed, supported and enforced by all international and environmental organizations.  This would remove all 'illegal' logging activities in the country and allowing the exploited land areas to replenish themselves biologically and ecologically. 

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 30th Jul, 2013 at 12:59am
No domestic or foreign human 'activities' are allowed in these sanctuary and forest areas.  However do build specific eco-tourist sites there where each site is themed to and run by the ethnic Lao people living in the region.   In the city, commercialize these eco-tourism sites and hopefully tourists will visit and spend more money at the sites. 

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:55am
The mountain villagers will terminate anyone who wants to do so. The cash crops and other crops produce more than the treking does. Even poppy makes more.

But, I support your idea, I love mountain with real forests. ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 12:59am:
No domestic or foreign human 'activities' are allowed in these sanctuary and forest areas.  However do build specific eco-tourist sites there where each site is themed to and run by the ethnic Lao people living in the region.   In the city, commercialize these eco-tourism sites and hopefully tourists will visit and spend more money at the sites. 


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 30th Jul, 2013 at 9:08am



Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 12:59am:
No domestic or foreign human 'activities' are allowed in these sanctuary and forest areas.  However do build specific eco-tourist sites there where each site is themed to and run by the ethnic Lao people living in the region.   In the city, commercialize these eco-tourism sites and hopefully tourists will visit and spend more money at the sites. 

:laugh2 :laugh2 :laugh2 :laugh2 :laugh2

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 30th Jul, 2013 at 10:01am
Are China men doing something illegal in Laos as well?



Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 30th Jul, 2013 at 10:33am
As business concerned, as far as I know, we do trading with Laos under the guidance and administration of Lao legal regulations and laws.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 30th Jul, 2013 at 10:42am

Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 10:01am:
Are China men doing something illegal in Laos as well?

There's alot of shady stuff going on in Laos.
Follow the money and you will find the culprit ;)

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:16pm
Shady stuff occurs everywhere and recently even worse here in the USA.   

However I prefer 1st world shadiness over 3rd shadiness on any given day.  ;D

China will always be China.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 31st Jul, 2013 at 10:10am

Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:16pm:
Shady stuff occurs everywhere and recently even worse here in the USA.   

However I prefer 1st world shadiness over 3rd shadiness on any given day.  ;D

China will always be China.

Yup so true.With over a billions of brain power they still lack
behind in so many area.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 31st Jul, 2013 at 10:32am
:applause :applause :applause :applause :applause :applause
ba dac wrote on 31st Jul, 2013 at 10:10am:

Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:16pm:
Shady stuff occurs everywhere and recently even worse here in the USA.   

However I prefer 1st world shadiness over 3rd shadiness on any given day.  ;D

China will always be China.

Yup so true.With over a billions of brain power they still lack
behind in so many area.

:applause :applause

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 31st Jul, 2013 at 4:57pm

peterpan wrote on 31st Jul, 2013 at 10:32am:
:applause :applause :applause :applause :applause :applause
ba dac wrote on 31st Jul, 2013 at 10:10am:

Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:16pm:
Shady stuff occurs everywhere and recently even worse here in the USA.   

However I prefer 1st world shadiness over 3rd shadiness on any given day.  ;D

China will always be China.

Yup so true.With over a billions of brain power they still lack
behind in so many area.

:applause :applause



Man i hope CHina someday can be a democracy. Can you imagine
what type of invention and all kind of good stuff that can came out of that country.Back in ancient time they invented
alot of stuff that other country copy .You can't go won't
when people are allow to think freely or speak without being
persecute.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 1st Aug, 2013 at 12:48am
Yes sir.   In China, buildings tumble down with just a  6.7 magnitude earthquake.  Cheap construction, cutting costs or whatever you call it, China will never be a 1st world nation.   

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 1st Aug, 2013 at 5:01am

Beef Cake wrote on 1st Aug, 2013 at 12:48am:
Yes sir.   In China, buildings tumble down with just a  6.7 magnitude earthquake.  Cheap construction, cutting costs or whatever you call it, China will never be a 1st world nation.   



:idontknow :idontknow

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 3rd Aug, 2013 at 10:54am

Beef Cake wrote on 1st Aug, 2013 at 12:48am:
Yes sir.   In China, buildings tumble down with just a  6.7 magnitude earthquake.  Cheap construction, cutting costs or whatever you call it, China will never be a 1st world nation.   


If they would put greed aside and take pride what they put out .I think they could be a power house.Did you guys see that British guy that poision by the wife of one top Chinese official.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 4th Aug, 2013 at 6:42pm
L.A Confidential


ba dac wrote on 3rd Aug, 2013 at 10:54am:

Beef Cake wrote on 1st Aug, 2013 at 12:48am:
Yes sir.   In China, buildings tumble down with just a  6.7 magnitude earthquake.  Cheap construction, cutting costs or whatever you call it, China will never be a 1st world nation.   


If they would put greed aside and take pride what they put out .I think they could be a power house.Did you guys see that British guy that poision by the wife of one top Chinese official.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 8th Aug, 2013 at 3:25am
The main objective is to migrate mountain and rural folks to the metropolis areas (Vientiane, Savanakhet, Luang Pabang and etc.) and to become less depend on land to survive. 
peterpan wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:55am:
The mountain villagers will terminate anyone who wants to do so. The cash crops and other crops produce more than the treking does. Even poppy makes more.

But, I support your idea, I love mountain with real forests. ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 12:59am:
No domestic or foreign human 'activities' are allowed in these sanctuary and forest areas.  However do build specific eco-tourist sites there where each site is themed to and run by the ethnic Lao people living in the region.   In the city, commercialize these eco-tourism sites and hopefully tourists will visit and spend more money at the sites. 


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 8th Aug, 2013 at 8:40am
Very creative idea. Where can my company find labors now if so. ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 8th Aug, 2013 at 3:25am:
The main objective is to migrate mountain and rural folks to the metropolis areas (Vientiane, Savanakhet, Luang Pabang and etc.) and to become less depend on land to survive. 
peterpan wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 8:55am:
The mountain villagers will terminate anyone who wants to do so. The cash crops and other crops produce more than the treking does. Even poppy makes more.

But, I support your idea, I love mountain with real forests. ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 30th Jul, 2013 at 12:59am:
No domestic or foreign human 'activities' are allowed in these sanctuary and forest areas.  However do build specific eco-tourist sites there where each site is themed to and run by the ethnic Lao people living in the region.   In the city, commercialize these eco-tourism sites and hopefully tourists will visit and spend more money at the sites. 


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 8th Aug, 2013 at 5:34pm
So for these folks, try to get them into obtaining 'blue collar' positions. 

Government money and REvenue money generated from these eco-tourism site can be use in building 'temporary' labour skill enhancement center.  In the center, these folks can try to upgrade themselves into the basic minimum communication skills (in reading and writing) and other blue collar labour skills (plumbing, carpenters, electricians, brick layers, factories, assemblies, restaurants and etc.). 

Keep in mind that the country should be highly aggressive in bringing in new bussinesses into the country. Since Laos is landlinked with hungry neighbours from all directions, Laos is at prime location for manufacturing stuff and exportation.  These businesses will be required to be filled by these folks.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 9th Aug, 2013 at 6:05am
Why skill enhancement centers be in metropolises?

But, that s good idea for HR training :applause






Beef Cake wrote on 8th Aug, 2013 at 5:34pm:
So for these folks, try to get them into obtaining 'blue collar' positions. 

Government money and REvenue money generated from these eco-tourism site can be use in building 'temporary' labour skill enhancement center.  In the center, these folks can try to upgrade themselves into the basic minimum communication skills (in reading and writing) and other blue collar labour skills (plumbing, carpenters, electricians, brick layers, factories, assemblies, restaurants and etc.). 

Keep in mind that the country should be highly aggressive in bringing in new bussinesses into the country. Since Laos is landlinked with hungry neighbours from all directions, Laos is at prime location for manufacturing stuff and exportation.  These businesses will be required to be filled by these folks.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 9th Aug, 2013 at 12:31pm

Beef Cake wrote on 8th Aug, 2013 at 5:34pm:
So for these folks, try to get them into obtaining 'blue collar' positions. 

Government money and REvenue money generated from these eco-tourism site can be use in building 'temporary' labour skill enhancement center.  In the center, these folks can try to upgrade themselves into the basic minimum communication skills (in reading and writing) and other blue collar labour skills (plumbing, carpenters, electricians, brick layers, factories, assemblies, restaurants and etc.). 

Keep in mind that the country should be highly aggressive in bringing in new bussinesses into the country. Since Laos is landlinked with hungry neighbours from all directions, Laos is at prime location for manufacturing stuff and exportation.  These businesses will be required to be filled by these folks.

:applause :applause :applause
tourism  is the key .But i totally agree with what ya saying.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 26th Aug, 2013 at 4:51pm
In any developing or developed nations, 'blue collars' are the backbone of society. 

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 29th Aug, 2013 at 1:36pm
White collars are the flesh of society? ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 26th Aug, 2013 at 4:51pm:
In any developing or developed nations, 'blue collars' are the backbone of society. 


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Supermoon on 30th Aug, 2013 at 5:15am
Sins of the flesh? :D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:56am
If I was the "King" of Laos, I would do many things, but first things first, I would kick out all the Viets and Chinese. Then I would let the Hmong return home along with the rest of the Lao Norks.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 9:51am
Do it diplomatically. Perhaps with 'diversions'.


Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:56am:
If I was the "King" of Laos, I would do many things, but first things first, I would kick out all the Viets and Chinese. Then I would let the Hmong return home along with the rest of the Lao Norks.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:01am
Ha ha ha ha ! I am chinese. but , I can feel it and understand it. ;D


Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:56am:
If I was the "King" of Laos, I would do many things, but first things first, I would kick out all the Viets and Chinese. Then I would let the Hmong return home along with the rest of the Lao Norks.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:02am
Do it economically, Structure adjustment.  ;D ;D ;D


Beef Cake wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 9:51am:
Do it diplomatically. Perhaps with 'diversions'.


Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:56am:
If I was the "King" of Laos, I would do many things, but first things first, I would kick out all the Viets and Chinese. Then I would let the Hmong return home along with the rest of the Lao Norks.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:10am
I don't mean to offend anyone that is Chinese or Viet but the country needs to focus on Lao people first.

Diplomatically you say? It was never done diplomatically to begin with. These damn commies do what they want like dictators, criminals. There is no negotiation with terrorists and the likes.

All these people came into Laos the wrong way so they can leave the same way they came in. Afterwards, the people of Laos can choose their own immigration policies. Not the way commies do it, trading money and infrastructure for Chinese and Viet immigrants to come into the country.

Laos needs to build a stronger Laos by starting with Lao people. There is already a China and Vietnam, if I wanted to go to those countries then I would but when I'm in Laos, I want to see signs in Laos, I want to hear the Lao language being spoken.
Laos needs Lao people to develop the country, no one else.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:18am
You were in Laos last year as I recalled.  Is the country being infested with China men and Viets? :laugh2  I too wants the best for our Lao people in Laos and everywhere across the globe. 



Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:10am:
I don't mean to offend anyone that is Chinese or Viet but the country needs to focus on Lao people first.

Diplomatically you say? It was never done diplomatically to begin with. These damn commies do what they want like dictators, criminals. There is no negotiation with terrorists and the likes.

All these people came into Laos the wrong way so they can leave the same way they came in. Afterwards, the people of Laos can choose their own immigration policies. Not the way commies do it, trading money and infrastructure for Chinese and Viet immigrants to come into the country.

Laos needs to build a stronger Laos by starting with Lao people. There is already a China and Vietnam, if I wanted to go to those countries then I would but when I'm in Laos, I want to see signs in Laos, I want to hear the Lao language being spoken.
Laos needs Lao people to develop the country, no one else.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:25am
Yeah I was there in April 2012. I was just in Thailand July 2013. Going to Savannaket, Champasak early spring 2014.
Chinese are everywhere there. Chinatown is larger than Dalat Sao Mall god dam haha.
For my fathers funeral, viet people were hired to do the preparations, I don't know why. Seems like more signs I see are in Vietnamese cause I can't read that shiet.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:31am
A lot of chinese traders. They are making basic merchandise trading. Of course, some are not. I can understand anything against and with chinese way of handling anything.  I met some Laos, westernized or orientanized. So, anything is understandable and acceptable. Just go Lao and you will feel it. 8-)


Beef Cake wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:18am:
You were in Laos last year as I recalled.  Is the country being infested with China men and Viets? :laugh2  I too wants the best for our Lao people in Laos and everywhere across the globe. 



Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:10am:
I don't mean to offend anyone that is Chinese or Viet but the country needs to focus on Lao people first.

Diplomatically you say? It was never done diplomatically to begin with. These damn commies do what they want like dictators, criminals. There is no negotiation with terrorists and the likes.

All these people came into Laos the wrong way so they can leave the same way they came in. Afterwards, the people of Laos can choose their own immigration policies. Not the way commies do it, trading money and infrastructure for Chinese and Viet immigrants to come into the country.

Laos needs to build a stronger Laos by starting with Lao people. There is already a China and Vietnam, if I wanted to go to those countries then I would but when I'm in Laos, I want to see signs in Laos, I want to hear the Lao language being spoken.
Laos needs Lao people to develop the country, no one else.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:35am
I can understand why viets were hired. I even dont know why there are so many chinese there. ;D


Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:25am:
Yeah I was there in April 2012. I was just in Thailand July 2013. Going to Savannaket, Champasak early spring 2014.
Chinese are everywhere there. Chinatown is larger than Dalat Sao Mall god dam haha.
For my fathers funeral, viet people were hired to do the preparations, I don't know why. Seems like more signs I see are in Vietnamese cause I can't read that shiet.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 10:49am
Well i look at it this way .At least the Chinese are doing something.Laos people are not gonna get off their butt and do it.I rather have a melting pot of people and develop
country then a 3rd world country.Heck the United State is nothing but a melting pot, look at how well off we are.I
have no hatred toward the Viet or the Chinese if they can
make Laos a better counrty go for it.Heck look what the commie doing to it now.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:05am
Yeah I don't have any hate for Chinese or Viets, but I would like to see a better immigration policy that puts Lao nationalism first. Every country will have some amount of foreign immigration. However, we are not the US and we are not a melting pot. Look at Japan and its mono society, it is doing okay and they like it that way. When Chinese and Viets come to Laos, they should respect the culuture and integrate into it, not put up their own Chinese signs, same with Viets. We are not going to start learning Chinese and Vietnamese in our schools just because they invaded. People in Laos have a hard time learning their own language already.
Take a look at the unwanted Mexicans coming to the US. Now the second language is Spanish, wtf?
People who come to Laos to live and start a life should want to become "Lao". Not come and bring the rest of their tribe and expand their country into someone elses. That's how wars start.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:13am
I agree with ya.In order to do what you're saying it all come
down to the Goverment.I totally understand where ya coming from.I don't see it happening in our life time.The corrupt commies passing the torch to their childrens.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:25am
Passing torch quoted from Kennedy? ;D ;D ;D


ba dac wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:13am:
I agree with ya.In order to do what you're saying it all come
down to the Goverment.I totally understand where ya coming from.I don't see it happening in our life time.The corrupt commies passing the torch to their childrens.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:32am

peterpan wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:25am:
Passing torch quoted from Kennedy? ;D ;D ;D


ba dac wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:13am:
I agree with ya.In order to do what you're saying it all come
down to the Goverment.I totally understand where ya coming from.I don't see it happening in our life time.The corrupt commies passing the torch to their childrens.

;D  naw i was just using that term as like what the North Korean are doing.The Kennedy at least wanted a better America .The commies just wanna lilne their pocket .

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:39am
Man, Kennedy was doing to protect his family, what if Marxism coming to US?

So, getting used to what surounds us, we can beat down Mr. Darwin.




ba dac wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:32am:

peterpan wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:25am:
Passing torch quoted from Kennedy? ;D ;D ;D


ba dac wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:13am:
I agree with ya.In order to do what you're saying it all come
down to the Goverment.I totally understand where ya coming from.I don't see it happening in our life time.The corrupt commies passing the torch to their childrens.

;D  naw i was just using that term as like what the North Korean are doing.The Kennedy at least wanted a better America .The commies just wanna lilne their pocket .


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:39am
For the most part, I agree with Buk Hoo Kee although I can't help but notice how eerily similar some of his talking points are to those used by Stormfront users and other White Nationalists. He cites the success of Japan's monoculture. Laos is anything but a monoculture, with the Lao people constituting only 55% of its population. Immigrants should integrate into the social fabric of their respective host society and this definitely applies to the Viet and China men in Lao. But to kick all of them out would be disastrous for Laos and would damage long term business relations with both country. I propose the government impose strict cultural standards, similar to those in Quebec. If people are unwilling to converse in the Lao language while in public, they have no business being in Laos except as a tourist.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:44am
In Quebec, people speak french or english?


TexasCowboy wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:39am:
For the most part, I agree with Buk Hoo Kee although I can't help but notice how eerily similar some of his talking points are to those used by Stormfront users and other White Nationalists. He cites the success of Japan's monoculture. Laos is anything but a monoculture, with the Lao people constituting only 55% of its population. Immigrants should integrate into the social fabric of their respective host society and this definitely applies to the Viet and China men in Lao. But to kick all of them out would be disastrous for Laos and would damage long term business relations with both country. I propose the government impose strict cultural standards, similar to those in Quebec. If people are unwilling to converse in the Lao language while in public, they have no business being in Laos except as a tourist.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:59am
Laos not being a mono society is the problem. Take a look at Thailand, almost half Chinese already. The nation is divided because of the rich and poor being treated differently. When you look at who are the rich in terms of ethnicity and who are the poor in their own country, it really looks like they are slaves in their own country. Once Laos becomes 49% occupied by Lao people, can you call it Laos anymore??
The only reason people think it would be disasterous if these people left is because they want you to think that we depend on them when really we don't need to. It's just that the commie gov't won't let the Lao people develop, and that's why they keep bringing in foreign people to do everything. Once Lao people are left to do the work and build their own country, then slowly but surely they can do it in their own way, the Lao way. Every country has to go through this, Rome was not built in a day. Lao people have been oppressed in their own country for far too long. Only drastic change can overcome the current situation.
There are already no elephants left, are we going to wait until there are no more Lao people also??

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 12:05pm
I think elephants are left in zoo.  ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 5:48pm
How can Laos justify having a monoculture when the Hmong have a historical claim to parts of the country? They have every right to live there and if they want to preserve their heritage and language it is their choice.

@Peterpan: Yes, the people of Quebec speak French and they want to keep it that way. I fully support any movements towards independence but in the meantime it is imperative for the government of Canada to respect their cultural and linguistic autonomy. Laos, being the small country it is, should have similar standards to those in Quebec. In other words, the Lao language should be backed and imposed by the government except where there is a legitimate historical claim for the use of another language (i.e. certain Hmong communities)

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Admin Saovaluck on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:14pm

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:59am:
Once Laos becomes 49% occupied by Lao people, can you call it Laos anymore??



Laos will always be called Laos regardless of the percentage of Lao people living in the country. People don't necessarily need to be an ethnic Laotian to be considered Lao, as long as they are a citizen of Laos and they follow Lao values then they are like us. By not accepting the Vietnamese, Chinese or other migrants who settle in Laos is heading towards racism.

The population of Lao people won't decrease, we will just see more mixed Lao people due to influx of immigration into Laos.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:34pm
You're not addressing his point: Laos might exist in name but there still exists the threat of Laos becoming a dumping ground and - dare I say it - colony of Vietnam and China. Both of these countries have an interest in carving out living space in Laos and neither have shown any concern for its native inhabitants. The Vietnamese minority continues to grow at an alarming rate and the threat looms of Lao people ultimately being displaced.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 7:03pm
Nice point :applause


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3rd Sep, 2013 at 11:59am:
Once Laos becomes 49% occupied by Lao people, can you call it Laos anymore??



Laos will always be called Laos regardless of the percentage of Lao people living in the country. People don't necessarily need to be an ethnic Laotian to be considered Lao, as long as they are a citizen of Laos and they follow Lao values then they are like us. By not accepting the Vietnamese, Chinese or other migrants who settle in Laos is heading towards racism.

The population of Lao people won't decrease, we will just see more mixed Lao people due to influx of immigration into Laos.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 4th Sep, 2013 at 11:28am
Admin, are your parents both pure Lao? If they are then you can call yourself Lao. That is my point, period. I can't say the same for miss Lao who is HALF Russian and perhaps HALF Lao (if her dad is truly pure Lao). So she cannot say she is "LAO". She cannot say her kids will be "LAO". This is not racism as you mentioned, it's called nationalism. Having pride in ones nationality is NOT racism. I live in America right now but I hold a Canadian Citizen. No one here considers me "American" or "Canadian", they just see me as some unknown Asian guy. Does that invoke racism? I know all about Quebec and it's separatist nature, I went to school in Ottawa, ON. So now I ask, why do these French Speaking people who live in a mostly English speaking country want to preserve their "French culture" so much? They have forced Canada to be bilingual, they have signs written only in French in most of their francophone cities but no English. They pretend not to understand me when I speak English to them cause they prefer their French only. The English won the war and could have deported all the French out of Canada at that time but let them stay. Now they almost separated the country in two and continue to try to do so. So you tell me a mono-society doesn't work? Canada is a mono-society if you consider everyone as "Canadians" but look at the problems when you have different cultural groups trying to destroy it. People say America is a melting pot, well I live here and see the "hood" where black people live, then another hood where "Mexicans" live, then there is the "white" hood. Discrimination still exists no matter what when you have 2 or more races of people, those are the facts of life. I'm a realist, not an idealist.
49% is what stopped them Frenchies from separating from Canada and forming their own country. I think any Canadian will remember that referendum.
The Hmong in Lao live there in most northern mountainous areas of Laos. When their population increases, what do you think they will want to do? Govern themselves, naturally. No one wants to be ruled by another. You can see this in democratic societies where the elected gov't representatives are a reflection of the population. A black president? Who would have thought, but how did that happened? Because black people were brought to America and now represent a significant percentage of the population.
This is the same in Laos, when you have Viet-Lao gov't officials who lean towards Vietnamese acceptance. I already know that half of them are Vietnamese descent, that's why Vietnam can do anything it wants with Laos right now. They make policies that favour Viets. When there are more Vietnamese population in Laos, they will have even more say, politically, economically, and eventually socially. You can take a look at the Latino population in America as an example, they have a large sway in the voting now.
The Chinese buy their way into Laos with "gifts", just like a Trojan Horse. Lao people can only see these material things but don't realize the repercussions. What comes to my mind right now is them Canadian beavers down in South America. They were brought there for their furs, only 50 of them were introduced, and now there are over 200,000 and they are destroying the place, haha (Go Canada?). The great lakes also had some infestation of non native species that create problems, there are many examples.

Okay so my point is this, even though I am "Canadian" I am not. I can only be what I truly am and that is Lao. I cannot change that, nothing can. You can tell me that Americans live in America but I see black, white, Mexican, Asian, etc... living in America, so what is American then?

You can take a look at Thailand and see that they all respect the Thai King. They say Thailand and Thai culture is the best in the world, they have nationalism and pride in themselves. Why doesn't Laos? It is because it is being ruled by Viets who don't celebrate being Lao. The Lao people are still oppressed. The media governed. If the King of Laos was still alive, I doubt any of this would of happened. Sadly, slowly but surely the Lao culture is dying, not evolving. The Last Samurai comes to my mind. I know you people will not understand what I say because the media has influenced you to believe in the idealistic, but ethnic cleansing and genocide still happens in this world, it just takes a different form. You look at Syria and tell me that is not about ethnicity and why people would fight to the death over it. Why gas your "own" people if they are not really your "own" people.

The only thing that I actually commend the commie Lao gov't for is the fact that they still uphold the law where native Lao can own land in Laos. They have this law in Thailand too. In condo's there can only be no more than 50% foreign ownership. This preserves the right of the local Thai native otherwise they would be kicked out of house and home eventually. Everyone knows that Chiang Mai is mostly Chinese, just look at the name already.

This isn't about racism, this is about nationalism. Laos doesn't have any anymore.
The other day I read about the Chinese going to the moon. They didn't say humans were going to the moon again, they said the "Chinese". I'm sure peterpan is proud of this and he has the right to be.

Where is the "LaoPride"?

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 4th Sep, 2013 at 12:01pm
I get your point. Personally, I am not proud of saying we have launched rocket to moon. I am sure, my friends do not care about it.  We dont talk about it as energically as  maybe decades ago American talked about their landing on the Moon. But, my friends and I is just very very very tiny portion of 1.3 billion Chinese. So, my opinion does not represent others,and I dont care others.

I met many thai whose forfathers came from China  in Chiang Mai  do not think they are chinese.  I have to say, there are indeed a lot of chinese students and tourists in Chiang Mai, why? 3 days you can reach there from the capital of Yunnan, Kunming, from where I live, 2 days. But, I love Chiang Mai, just worries about its smoke.  ;D


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 4th Sep, 2013 at 12:39pm
It all come down to the leader of Laos.They have no shame .What i mean is that they would let foreign interest
rape the heck out of Laos so they can line their own pocket.
Money talk buddy and the commies love money.When you have $$$ people have no pride.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Larb Dip on 5th Sep, 2013 at 3:48pm

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 4th Sep, 2013 at 11:28am:
Admin, are your parents both pure Lao? If they are then you can call yourself Lao. That is my point, period. I can't say the same for miss Lao who is HALF Russian and perhaps HALF Lao (if her dad is truly pure Lao). So she cannot say she is "LAO". She cannot say her kids will be "LAO". This is not racism as you mentioned, it's called nationalism. Having pride in ones nationality is NOT racism. I live in America right now but I hold a Canadian Citizen. No one here considers me "American" or "Canadian", they just see me as some unknown Asian guy. Does that invoke racism? I know all about Quebec and it's separatist nature, I went to school in Ottawa, ON. So now I ask, why do these French Speaking people who live in a mostly English speaking country want to preserve their "French culture" so much? They have forced Canada to be bilingual, they have signs written only in French in most of their francophone cities but no English. They pretend not to understand me when I speak English to them cause they prefer their French only. The English won the war and could have deported all the French out of Canada at that time but let them stay. Now they almost separated the country in two and continue to try to do so. So you tell me a mono-society doesn't work? Canada is a mono-society if you consider everyone as "Canadians" but look at the problems when you have different cultural groups trying to destroy it. People say America is a melting pot, well I live here and see the "hood" where black people live, then another hood where "Mexicans" live, then there is the "white" hood. Discrimination still exists no matter what when you have 2 or more races of people, those are the facts of life. I'm a realist, not an idealist.
49% is what stopped them Frenchies from separating from Canada and forming their own country. I think any Canadian will remember that referendum.
The Hmong in Lao live there in most northern mountainous areas of Laos. When their population increases, what do you think they will want to do? Govern themselves, naturally. No one wants to be ruled by another. You can see this in democratic societies where the elected gov't representatives are a reflection of the population. A black president? Who would have thought, but how did that happened? Because black people were brought to America and now represent a significant percentage of the population.
This is the same in Laos, when you have Viet-Lao gov't officials who lean towards Vietnamese acceptance. I already know that half of them are Vietnamese descent, that's why Vietnam can do anything it wants with Laos right now. They make policies that favour Viets. When there are more Vietnamese population in Laos, they will have even more say, politically, economically, and eventually socially. You can take a look at the Latino population in America as an example, they have a large sway in the voting now.
The Chinese buy their way into Laos with "gifts", just like a Trojan Horse. Lao people can only see these material things but don't realize the repercussions. What comes to my mind right now is them Canadian beavers down in South America. They were brought there for their furs, only 50 of them were introduced, and now there are over 200,000 and they are destroying the place, haha (Go Canada?). The great lakes also had some infestation of non native species that create problems, there are many examples.

Okay so my point is this, even though I am "Canadian" I am not. I can only be what I truly am and that is Lao. I cannot change that, nothing can. You can tell me that Americans live in America but I see black, white, Mexican, Asian, etc... living in America, so what is American then?

You can take a look at Thailand and see that they all respect the Thai King. They say Thailand and Thai culture is the best in the world, they have nationalism and pride in themselves. Why doesn't Laos? It is because it is being ruled by Viets who don't celebrate being Lao. The Lao people are still oppressed. The media governed. If the King of Laos was still alive, I doubt any of this would of happened. Sadly, slowly but surely the Lao culture is dying, not evolving. The Last Samurai comes to my mind. I know you people will not understand what I say because the media has influenced you to believe in the idealistic, but ethnic cleansing and genocide still happens in this world, it just takes a different form. You look at Syria and tell me that is not about ethnicity and why people would fight to the death over it. Why gas your "own" people if they are not really your "own" people.

The only thing that I actually commend the commie Lao gov't for is the fact that they still uphold the law where native Lao can own land in Laos. They have this law in Thailand too. In condo's there can only be no more than 50% foreign ownership. This preserves the right of the local Thai native otherwise they would be kicked out of house and home eventually. Everyone knows that Chiang Mai is mostly Chinese, just look at the name already.

This isn't about racism, this is about nationalism. Laos doesn't have any anymore.
The other day I read about the Chinese going to the moon. They didn't say humans were going to the moon again, they said the "Chinese". I'm sure peterpan is proud of this and he has the right to be.

Where is the "LaoPride"?


Hi BHK!

This type of thinking is what is holding us back. In fact I have never met another Lao with your far-right beliefs. Where are all these full blooded Lao role models of ours?  As far as I'm concerned: LAO IS LAO. It doesn't matter if they are half or less; as long as they feel they are Lao and don't deny it when asked then they have my approval (not they need it.) When I say " Lao is Lao" I'm only referring to the people with Lao blood. That doesn't make them any less Lao than anyone else. I would side with these half-caste Lao over the full blooded rogue Lao Thai Isan sellouts any day! Most of these Thai Isans are full Lao but they don't want to be Lao. 

I agree about all these Viets and Chinese coming in. It wont be long before they take over. What the Commies should do is have a law where Lao people are prioritized because it is Laos and Laos is the motherland of all Lao (not going to happen).

Allow me to educate you:
http://youtu.be/AqSecCblb1g
This is old news by the way. The Commies started selling land to foreigners at least 2 years ago. It is official. You can now despair. ;D

Chieng Mai or "Xieng Mai" is a Lao name; the people are ethnic Lao too.





Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 5th Sep, 2013 at 7:06pm
BHK do you think the nation would benefit from a limited number of Lao Aryan couples? Nordic people are renowned for their creativity and ingenuity and their blood could invigorate the Lao people.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 5th Sep, 2013 at 8:17pm
My company just leased land in 2006. No way to buy. Land regulations change all the time.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 7th Sep, 2013 at 8:36am
These are not far right beliefs. You people  don't understand what nationalism is. It is like in the US where people are patriotic.
1 + 1 = 2 right?
You plant an apple seed, you get and apple tree.
Elephant + Elephant = Elephant
Lao + Lao = Lao
Lao + non-Lao = ?
This is not my opinion, this is biology, this is reality.

Can you explain to me why being proud to be Lao and wanting Lao people to flourish is "holding us back"?
So you would rather have Lao people marry non-Lao people because Lao people are not good? Lao people are not better than others? So we have to half breed ourselves to become better?
Sounds to me like you people lack self esteem and respect for who you are, and being Lao.
I am not against immigration of other nationalities into Laos, nor inter-racial marriages. But when we are talking about Laos as a country, I believe we need to focus on Lao people, not foreign interest. The French have already come and influenced Laos and now the Viet commies. What good has come of it? Why can't Lao people control their own futures? Why can't they make their own decisions about how their country should develop? You rely on foreign interest to do what's best for your country means you have no trust and pride in your own Lao people.
I don't think I'm the one who needs to be educated, and I take offense in your ignorance. Foreigners can buy land, but at a costly price that the average person alone cannot afford, only corporations and that is who the Lao commie gov't is targeting.

My influences are my father. He came from the Royal family of Laos. His uncle was the King of Laos.
If you call yourself Lao then you should have more pride in being Lao. Just because you grow up in another country that is multicultural and embraces the melting pot concept, that doesn't mean that wanting to be pure Lao is a far right view. I can easily say that your views are counter productive to the Lao people and far too liberal. That actually might get you killed in Laos, haha.

Currently the gov't doesn't care about Lao people, that is why I state that the new president needs to correct that. They need to focus on Lao people, not the Chinese or Viets or anyone else for that matter. Once the country is stable and established, then you can let foreign influence into the country as per the agreed upon immigration policies of the Lao people. Right now Lao people don't have a say in who or how foreigners can come into their country. Right now Lao people are second class citizens in their own country.

Next thing you know when you're in Laos making a call, it will ask you to press 1 for Lao language.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Larb Dip on 7th Sep, 2013 at 12:14pm

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 7th Sep, 2013 at 8:36am:
These are not far right beliefs. You people  don't understand what nationalism is. It is like in the US where people are patriotic.
1 + 1 = 2 right?
You plant an apple seed, you get and apple tree.
Elephant + Elephant = Elephant
Lao + Lao = Lao
Lao + non-Lao = ?
This is not my opinion, this is biology, this is reality.

Can you explain to me why being proud to be Lao and wanting Lao people to flourish is "holding us back"?
So you would rather have Lao people marry non-Lao people because Lao people are not good? Lao people are not better than others? So we have to half breed ourselves to become better?
Sounds to me like you people lack self esteem and respect for who you are, and being Lao.
I am not against immigration of other nationalities into Laos, nor inter-racial marriages. But when we are talking about Laos as a country, I believe we need to focus on Lao people, not foreign interest. The French have already come and influenced Laos and now the Viet commies. What good has come of it? Why can't Lao people control their own futures? Why can't they make their own decisions about how their country should develop? You rely on foreign interest to do what's best for your country means you have no trust and pride in your own Lao people.
I don't think I'm the one who needs to be educated, and I take offense in your ignorance. Foreigners can buy land, but at a costly price that the average person alone cannot afford, only corporations and that is who the Lao commie gov't is targeting.

My influences are my father. He came from the Royal family of Laos. His uncle was the King of Laos.
If you call yourself Lao then you should have more pride in being Lao. Just because you grow up in another country that is multicultural and embraces the melting pot concept, that doesn't mean that wanting to be pure Lao is a far right view. I can easily say that your views are counter productive to the Lao people and far too liberal. That actually might get you killed in Laos, haha.

Currently the gov't doesn't care about Lao people, that is why I state that the new president needs to correct that. They need to focus on Lao people, not the Chinese or Viets or anyone else for that matter. Once the country is stable and established, then you can let foreign influence into the country as per the agreed upon immigration policies of the Lao people. Right now Lao people don't have a say in who or how foreigners can come into their country. Right now Lao people are second class citizens in their own country.

Next thing you know when you're in Laos making a call, it will ask you to press 1 for Lao language.

What do you propose we do with all these half-castes?
Where are all the full blood Lao people who are contributing to mankind let alone Laos? I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY! These mixed Lao cannot change their dna. Like I said, if they have Lao pride and uphold the tenets of being Lao (you know what they are - then that is cool with me; if they don't and veer towards their other ethnicity (which the Commies are doing: veering towards their Viet side - then they can get f*cked and get out of Laos for all I care. This is in no way an endorsement for intermarriage. I prefer full Lao over half-caste  anyday (because I am one). My tribe (as far as I know) are all 100% Lao and I'm as proud as they kham (a pun), so you know I know what I'm talking about. I know for a fact that Lao people in general pride themselves on Lao blood purity. I can remember my mother divulging her desires for me and my 7 siblings to bring a nice Lao boy/girl home to meet her; to settle down, start a family with. In fact one of my sisters broke up with a Lao guy and started going with a Falang. It wasn't long after that that all my aunties started going around trying to talk some "sense"  into her. She broke up with that white boy and eventually married the Lao guy and are now married with 4 kids. Everybody is happy. Even the former royal and aristocratic classes all intermarried with kissing cousins to keep their bloodline pure. This is the way it has always been.

All these illegal Chinese and Viet immigrants need to be deported. I got no problems with that.

The French involvment was the best thing to happen to Laos. Let us not forget our liberators!. If not for the Falang, Laos would not exist and you, my idol, would probably be another lost Lao 'Isan', ashamed of the word Lao. You wouldn't be sounding patriotic like this had you been brought  up under Siamese education proganda. Just look at all our brethren across the river who are ashamed to even speak Lao in front of the 'upper class' Siamese.
http://youtu.be/ryzSRziuFrA

I'm laughing at your ignorance for calling me ignorant when you of all people should know that there are no such things as 'laws' is Laos. I've been back to Laos a few times this past year and a half, and let me tell you BHK, according to gossip (I wasn't there to witness it) there are people who are selling portions of their farms to ca$h strapped Chinese through corrupt Viet government official go-betweens. It's as easy as that! Do you know what the Chinese do with their newly acquired land? They farm vegetables to sell to Lao in Laos. How smart is that!

Being pure Lao is the right way to go. Agreed!

If YOU were president, what would you do? I would really like to know. (What would you do with all the half-castes?)

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 8th Sep, 2013 at 10:19am
Man , you guys writing to much make my head hurt .j/k
Anyway who's fault is that ? The People that in control allowing it to happen.Its all start from the top . There's
no pride in Laos from what i've seen.Call me a liar or a traitor . It is what it is.Its every man for himself in that
country.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 30th Sep, 2013 at 8:57pm
Sir, Bless your heart.


ba dac wrote on 8th Sep, 2013 at 10:19am:
Man , you guys writing to much make my head hurt .j/k
Anyway who's fault is that ? The People that in control allowing it to happen.Its all start from the top . There's
no pride in Laos from what i've seen.Call me a liar or a traitor . It is what it is.Its every man for himself in that
country.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 6th Oct, 2013 at 5:36pm
If you wouldn't die for the Lao people IMO you have no business being on this site

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 8th Oct, 2013 at 10:17am

TexasCowboy wrote on 6th Oct, 2013 at 5:36pm:
If you wouldn't die for the Lao people IMO you have no business being on this site


Seriously ? i'm too young to die

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 10th Oct, 2013 at 7:35am

TexasCowboy wrote on 6th Oct, 2013 at 5:36pm:
If you wouldn't die for the Lao people IMO you have no business being on this site

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 16th Oct, 2013 at 10:00pm
Never too young to sacrifice your life for the glory of the Lao nation and people IMO

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 18th Oct, 2013 at 4:53am
What in planet is IMO?

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Buk Hoo Kee on 21st Oct, 2013 at 7:54am
It's been a while since I've visited this site. I got better things to do than to shoot the shiet with strangers.

I feel that everyone who comes to this board has some sense of Lao Pride. We all have our views of what Laos should be. I respect those views but that is a two way street my friends. Doesn't matter what you and I say, Laos is still what it is. We only sound like a bunch of old men grumbling about something we have no control over. I listen to all the arguments but that's all it is, talk. No one's walking the walk.

I just want to clarify a few things:

1) If you read my posts again - I am not against inter-racial marriages, I've said it very clearly in my posts. That being said, I also don't promote it. That is my personal view and experience. I am stating the fact that when a non-Lao and Lao person have a child, the result is not a pure 100% Lao offspring. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. For this reason, my personal preference would be towards 100% Lao but Love is not a simple matter, I realize. I am a person who upholds human rights (that's why I get mad from these accusations). The people who are not 100% Lao are still people, it is not their fault for being born ok. But just as some of you prefer and have this view of being mixed is better or whatever, I also have the right to my view of preferring 100% Lao. From the comments I've seen, I can't even be proud to be 100% Lao anymore without someone labeling me something. This is Lao Pride but everyone on here seems to be the opposite. I've been discriminated and treated unfairly many times by other races in the past and continue every day, even at work ok, but I still think positively, just remembering it in the back of my head. Race is still a factor all around the world. If you think otherwise then you can continue to live in your naïve world. Look at the recent news with the Lao Airlines crash, they categorized the people killed by nationality. Australian news focused on the Australians killed, Thai news focused on the Thai who were killed, same with the Taiwanese and so on... I just tell it like it is ok.

2) Do you guys remember when the Japanese who were living in America were treated like "Japanese" during the war and all their rights were taken away even though they were "Americans". It has happened all throughout history. I don't mean to raise this debate about race. I lived in Canada and US most of my life. I've travelled enough to know and experience the reality of different races and cultures. I remember someone at worked told me this story during the start of the Iraq war. He iterated the importance of wearing a certain type of flag on your uniform; a Canadian soldier walks through the streets of Kabul and they invite him in for dinner. An American walks the same street and they throw rocks at him. They could have been the same soldier but peoples perceptions are different. Each country was formed for a reason, to protect it's own people and ensure its survival. If we were talking about US then that's multicultural and being American is - whatever it means. But we are talking about Laos and Laotian people, not Chinese, not Vietnamese, not Thai, not White, or anything else so don't take your "Western" ideals and impose them on Laos. As a President, my views would be to enable the Lao people to flourish, the national language to be Lao, not Vietnamese/Chinese/English. Enable the Lao people to make their own decisions of how they want their country to continue into the future. Let the Lao people decide if they want immigration from other countries such as China/Vietnam/Cambodia/etc..
Right now that is not the case. Every other nationality besides Lao is making these f'king decisions. When another race is ruling over another, there will always be injustice, no freedom. Take a look at the Viets taking over parts of Cambodia and forcing them to speak Viet, over 12 million Cambodians still live there and being slaves in their own country. Look at Tibet, why do they fight for their rights and being Tibetan? Why don't the Taiwanese go back to joining the mainland? I have been waiting since 1976 to go back to Vientiane, Laos - my home. But what will it look like when I do go back? If I have to speak Viet than fack that shiet. You guys tell me if you are Lao then you would be willing to die for it, well that's how I feel too. That's the Lao Pride I'm talking about.

3) Hmong people are a part of Laos. It is also their home. They have lived there in peace, unlike many others who came to Laos. I say let them be in peace. They fought for Laos during the war, they were willing to die for Laos - they have my respect any day.

4) I said Laos needs to focus on itself first. Yes at the beginning it needs to restructure and establish the core values of Lao culture. This means establishing a sense of nationalism - made in Laos. Just like how other countries are so proud to have that on many of their products. I keep hearing Americans and how they are so patriotic saying things like "made in America" "Murcia". Well what's wrong with having that pride in Laos and it's own people. Can you guys name something that is made in Laos besides BeerLao? I want the people of Laos to have pride in themselves again instead of being looked down upon from everyone including its neighbors.
Laos also needs to develop better relationships with it's neighbors and the world. You cannot have a closed economy in this day and age. The gov't should help develop the local businesses and empower the people, give them the finances they need and open the world markets to the newly created Lao products. We have so much natural resources but only the foreigners come to exploit it and the Lao people get the shaft. We want your electricity, okay you Lao people have to give up your land and move so we can build those dams. I see plenty of this going on but no one can stop it cause Lao people don't control Laos, some other biatches do.

5) Dispose of the dictator and communism. Let the Lao people rule Laos again. Simple as that.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by TexasCowboy on 21st Oct, 2013 at 10:21am
Thank you for taking the time to clarify your position on a variety of issues. I more or less agree with the points you've made.
The future of Laos does not look too bright. The country will probably be sold out by an incompetent and corrupt regime to the highest paying bidders. Media sources from the West and highly industrialized, decadent countries of East Asia will dominate and transform the culture. This is a shame because the Laos I've known and loved could come to an end within a few decades. Thankfully, even the new generation seems to uphold the traditional values but one must wonder about what future holds in store.

Nationalism and a mixed economy is the only realistic solution but this can only be achieved through the deposition or total overhaul of the reigning government.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 21st Oct, 2013 at 5:53pm
Oh my Lord y'all!  Your paragrahs are too long.   :laughing_out_loud :laughing_out_loud :laughing_out_loud :laughing_out_loud

Five sentences or less please. ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 22nd Oct, 2013 at 10:21am
I don't think we are strangers.We are Laos brothers . Comeon man don't get yourself bent out of shape so quick.
This is just a place where we can talk about the motherland.
  ;)

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Larb Dip on 23rd Oct, 2013 at 4:58am

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 21st Oct, 2013 at 7:54am:
It's been a while since I've visited this site. I got better things to do than to shoot the shiet with strangers.

I feel that everyone who comes to this board has some sense of Lao Pride. We all have our views of what Laos should be. I respect those views but that is a two way street my friends. Doesn't matter what you and I say, Laos is still what it is. We only sound like a bunch of old men grumbling about something we have no control over. I listen to all the arguments but that's all it is, talk. No one's walking the walk.

I just want to clarify a few things:

1) If you read my posts again - I am not against inter-racial marriages, I've said it very clearly in my posts. That being said, I also don't promote it. That is my personal view and experience. I am stating the fact that when a non-Lao and Lao person have a child, the result is not a pure 100% Lao offspring. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. For this reason, my personal preference would be towards 100% Lao but Love is not a simple matter, I realize. I am a person who upholds human rights (that's why I get mad from these accusations). The people who are not 100% Lao are still people, it is not their fault for being born ok. But just as some of you prefer and have this view of being mixed is better or whatever, I also have the right to my view of preferring 100% Lao. From the comments I've seen, I can't even be proud to be 100% Lao anymore without someone labeling me something. This is Lao Pride but everyone on here seems to be the opposite. I've been discriminated and treated unfairly many times by other races in the past and continue every day, even at work ok, but I still think positively, just remembering it in the back of my head. Race is still a factor all around the world. If you think otherwise then you can continue to live in your naïve world. Look at the recent news with the Lao Airlines crash, they categorized the people killed by nationality. Australian news focused on the Australians killed, Thai news focused on the Thai who were killed, same with the Taiwanese and so on... I just tell it like it is ok.

2) Do you guys remember when the Japanese who were living in America were treated like "Japanese" during the war and all their rights were taken away even though they were "Americans". It has happened all throughout history. I don't mean to raise this debate about race. I lived in Canada and US most of my life. I've travelled enough to know and experience the reality of different races and cultures. I remember someone at worked told me this story during the start of the Iraq war. He iterated the importance of wearing a certain type of flag on your uniform; a Canadian soldier walks through the streets of Kabul and they invite him in for dinner. An American walks the same street and they throw rocks at him. They could have been the same soldier but peoples perceptions are different. Each country was formed for a reason, to protect it's own people and ensure its survival. If we were talking about US then that's multicultural and being American is - whatever it means. But we are talking about Laos and Laotian people, not Chinese, not Vietnamese, not Thai, not White, or anything else so don't take your "Western" ideals and impose them on Laos. As a President, my views would be to enable the Lao people to flourish, the national language to be Lao, not Vietnamese/Chinese/English. Enable the Lao people to make their own decisions of how they want their country to continue into the future. Let the Lao people decide if they want immigration from other countries such as China/Vietnam/Cambodia/etc..
Right now that is not the case. Every other nationality besides Lao is making these f'king decisions. When another race is ruling over another, there will always be injustice, no freedom. Take a look at the Viets taking over parts of Cambodia and forcing them to speak Viet, over 12 million Cambodians still live there and being slaves in their own country. Look at Tibet, why do they fight for their rights and being Tibetan? Why don't the Taiwanese go back to joining the mainland? I have been waiting since 1976 to go back to Vientiane, Laos - my home. But what will it look like when I do go back? If I have to speak Viet than fack that shiet. You guys tell me if you are Lao then you would be willing to die for it, well that's how I feel too. That's the Lao Pride I'm talking about.

3) Hmong people are a part of Laos. It is also their home. They have lived there in peace, unlike many others who came to Laos. I say let them be in peace. They fought for Laos during the war, they were willing to die for Laos - they have my respect any day.

4) I said Laos needs to focus on itself first. Yes at the beginning it needs to restructure and establish the core values of Lao culture. This means establishing a sense of nationalism - made in Laos. Just like how other countries are so proud to have that on many of their products. I keep hearing Americans and how they are so patriotic saying things like "made in America" "Murcia". Well what's wrong with having that pride in Laos and it's own people. Can you guys name something that is made in Laos besides BeerLao? I want the people of Laos to have pride in themselves again instead of being looked down upon from everyone including its neighbors.
Laos also needs to develop better relationships with it's neighbors and the world. You cannot have a closed economy in this day and age. The gov't should help develop the local businesses and empower the people, give them the finances they need and open the world markets to the newly created Lao products. We have so much natural resources but only the foreigners come to exploit it and the Lao people get the shaft. We want your electricity, okay you Lao people have to give up your land and move so we can build those dams. I see plenty of this going on but no one can stop it cause Lao people don't control Laos, some other biatches do.

5) Dispose of the dictator and communism. Let the Lao people rule Laos again. Simple as that.


Look man, I had to cut your keynote speech short because I didn't agree with the tone of your rhetoric on being Lao, fearing it might inspire those looking for that sort of inspiration to jump on your band wagon. Saying mixed Lao children and the rest of their descendants are not Lao - like Miss Laos/Russia for example, is heresy to me. When you go around dichotomizing between our people saying that they're not Lao because their bloodline has been diluted, it breaks our solidarity. Lao relations can be summed up with that one word: Solidarity ຄວາມສາມັກຄີ. You even shot down "The Princess of Laos" because she didn't fit in with your stereotype of how a Lao princess should materialize. You should know, right? because you claim to have connections to the bygone aristocracy and the King of Laos is supposedly your great Uncle.

The news focused only on nationality. Nationality and race are not the same thing. There were also French passengers on board. France is very multicultural. How do you know that they weren't black French or Asian French or proper white French? How do you know the deceased Australians were not Aborigines or Arab Australians? The news reports ambiguisly as "Australians', "Thai" etc. Race had nothing to do with those reports.

You make it sound like Lao in Laos are being held back in regards to development. In the "Laos looks for more workers" topic recently posted, it states that Laos is now soliciting another 90,000 workers on top of the 20,000 already present. Do you think the Laos government would be looking for such an influx of manpower if they had the resources? Lao people are not as determined as other races and most are lazy as phuck; they just want to party and drink and drink and drink. The truth hurts BHK. Take mining for instance, how would Laos extract those natural resources without the expertise of the skilled foreign workers and their heavy machinery? You want the Commies to up-skill the village bumpkins and expect them to get the job done with spades and wheelbarrows?

I don't mind skilled workers but all these stall owners, roadside vendors construction workers and the rest of the unskilled workers doing whatever the hell it is they're doing need to go and have their possessions distributed among the poor.

"Dispose of the dictator and communism. Let the Lao people rule Laos again. Simple as that."

Now when you write stuff like this, I'm assuming you don't consider the government - even though they are Commies - Lao?

Look mate, I don't want you to feel like this is a personal attack. This is simply a response and a conveyance of my perspective. I feel I need to jot that down because you seem like a sensitive guy. I don't have an ounce of malevolence in me; but this post could be construed as such, especially from someone who is bereaving like you seem to be doing especially from your discriminations at work.

You're still my idol BHK. :D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Street Sweeper on 23rd Oct, 2013 at 5:25pm
Many Lao are going to Tahiland to find work because they are being paid much higher in Tahiland.  Could it be that these 90,000 jobs are not paid as well comparing to available jobs in Tahiland?  And not related to laziness? ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Admin Saovaluck on 28th Oct, 2013 at 2:09am

Larb Dip wrote on 23rd Oct, 2013 at 4:58am:
You even shot down "The Princess of Laos" because she didn't fit in with your stereotype of how a Lao princess should materialize. You should know, right? because you claim to have connections to the bygone aristocracy and the King of Laos is supposedly your great Uncle.



"The Princess of Laos" is a natural reaction for any typical Laotian watching the movie or trailer, and not just those that have connection to the Lao Monarchy. I'm not saying that the black princess actress is a right or wrong choice, but if you're going to play a black African as a Lao Princess then you're asking for controversy.

If Thais watched a movie based around a Thai princess and the actress used was a black African woman, do you think there's not going to be any reaction among their people?

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Larb Dip on 5th Nov, 2013 at 1:14pm

Beef Cake wrote on 23rd Oct, 2013 at 5:25pm:
Many Lao are going to Tahiland to find work because they are being paid much higher in Tahiland.  Could it be that these 90,000 jobs are not paid as well comparing to available jobs in Tahiland?  And not related to laziness? ;D


It is because the majority of these migrant workers are prostitutes and laymen. Where is the skill in that?

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Larb Dip on 5th Nov, 2013 at 1:15pm

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 28th Oct, 2013 at 2:09am:

Larb Dip wrote on 23rd Oct, 2013 at 4:58am:
You even shot down "The Princess of Laos" because she didn't fit in with your stereotype of how a Lao princess should materialize. You should know, right? because you claim to have connections to the bygone aristocracy and the King of Laos is supposedly your great Uncle.



"The Princess of Laos" is a natural reaction for any typical Laotian watching the movie or trailer, and not just those that have connection to the Lao Monarchy. I'm not saying that the black princess actress is a right or wrong choice, but if you're going to play a black African as a Lao Princess then you're asking for controversy.

If Thais watched a movie based around a Thai princess and the actress used was a black African woman, do you think there's not going to be any reaction among their people?


Now you're starting to sound as radical as BHK. Perhaps you're forgetting your own Viet extractions? According to BHKism, your ethnic diversity doesn't make you "pure"; "you cannot call yourself Lao".

Isn't that "black African women" Lao too? She even has royal blood. What makes you any more Lao than her? Aren't you part Viet? ;D If anything, her playing the role of a Lao princess is more accurate than when the Thais use Chinese actresses to misrepresent their monarchs. Don't tell me it's because she's black. Aren't there dark people in Laos?

Miss Lao/Russian is declared most beautiful woman in Laos for 2013 and no one objects. The "princess of Laos" plays herself in a movie and is crucified. Hmmmm..........interesting.


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 5th Nov, 2013 at 1:53pm
What is the name of the most beautiful Lao woman 2013 ?


Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Admin Saovaluck on 6th Nov, 2013 at 12:30am
Thais use mixed Thai-Chinese or Chinese actresses because they fit what their monarchy want the public to view them. If you used a black African woman to portray their princess, you would probably be executed in Thailand due to their strict lese-majeste law.

Well of course there are ordinary black people in Laos, but does any Laotian want to known as a black princess? Even if they were naturally black, they would go to great lengths to make their skin white. The Queen of Thailand is naturally dark but look at her in public, she is whiter than a Thai movie star.

Miss Lao-Russian isn't a princess, she is just an ordinary person who won a beauty contest because she has white skin. She doesn't represent anyone but herself.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 9th Nov, 2013 at 11:17am
Of course there's gonna be more black or darker skin people in Laos. Majority of them work out in the rice fields or out bout looking or hunting for food.Nothing wrong with being dark i think. Over here the white chic goes into a tanning bed to get our color.lol ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 12th Nov, 2013 at 12:49pm
Hey what going on in Thailand ? i haven't been watching news

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 12th Nov, 2013 at 6:45pm

ba dac wrote on 9th Nov, 2013 at 11:17am:
Of course there's gonna be more black or darker skin people in Laos. Majority of them work out in the rice fields or out bout looking or hunting for food.Nothing wrong with being dark i think. Over here the white chic goes into a tanning bed to get our color.lol ;D


Very good enlightenment for the 100,000 USD investment to get residency permit. Buy rice field, broadcast it to USA as tanning bed.  White get tanned, you get rice!  Win win  ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 12th Nov, 2013 at 6:47pm

ba dac wrote on 12th Nov, 2013 at 12:49pm:
Hey what going on in Thailand ? i haven't been watching news


Bad guys won't be freed! The people voice heard.

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 15th Nov, 2013 at 11:36am
man somebody should just throw that taksin guy in the jungle somewhere

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by peterpan on 15th Nov, 2013 at 12:54pm
Throw to where? the Mars? to meet the cuttiest Mars girl with tails? that is harsh. ;D

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by ba dac on 16th Nov, 2013 at 11:26am
Get rid of his arss .He just stirring up problem

Title: Re: If you were the President of Laos .
Post by Rockstar on 27th Dec, 2013 at 2:00am
Jungle lifestyle is the best yall! :lifting_dumbbells

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