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Re: 55 die in 7 days of Lao New Year road accidents
Reply #15 - 25th Apr, 2011 at 9:58pm
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 9:06pm:
My cousin was cremated the next day in a simple ceremony after his accident. The truck driver is in jail, so whoever thinks that people can get away in Laos by paying the police are dead wrong. If you kill someone in a road accident in Laos, it's automatic jail time for you.

We don't recycle body parts. The Lao belief is that if you remove a certain part of the deceased, such as the brain for example, they may be born again with not much intelligence. So out of respect to the deceased and in hope that they reincarnate to a better life, everything must be burnt with them.

The deceased is kept in a coffin, ready to be cremated.


Was it not manslaughter the assailant was guilty of? It can't have been murder. Am I wrong? Do you know how long he's incarcerated for?
Any such thing as parole in Laos? Do they reward good behavour in the Lao penetentary systems?

Letting the deceased depart with as intact as possible sounds very sound.

Don't they cremate out in the open? Or do they do the burning in furnaces? Maybe you can choose how you'd like to go out?
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Re: 55 die in 7 days of Lao New Year road accidents
Reply #16 - 25th Apr, 2011 at 11:42pm
 
It's not murder, however two people died as a result of his action (my cousin and his friend). There is such thing as parole, but I don't know how long he will be locked up for.

Yes, the deceased is cremated out in the open, but you can't see a body, just fire and flames, because the deceased is in a coffin which is surrounded by many branches of wood.
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Reply #17 - 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:52pm
 
Was there even a court case? That was quite a quick conviction.

Did you cry?
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Reply #18 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 12:45am
 
I'm not aware of any court case.

Cry? Didn't you read what I wrote on the following thread?

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My cousin's sudden death doesn't affect me much on a personal level, because he isn't an immediate family member, but still a very close relative, and his family is obviously devastated.
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Reply #19 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:30am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 12:45am:
I'm not aware of any court case.

Cry? Didn't you read what I wrote on the following thread?

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My cousin's sudden death doesn't affect me much on a personal level, because he isn't an immediate family member, but still a very close relative, and his family is obviously devastated.


That's quite shocking! No court cases in Laos? Then the cops are ALWAYS right, right? You might as well do a runner. Grin

I'll take that as a NO!
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Reply #20 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 2:00am
 
We have court cases in Laos, but most offenses among "poor" people are settled out of court.

The driver's relative will be negotiating with my cousin's family soon, also with the other boys family who got killed together.

They've already paid my cousin's family 3 million kip ($375 US) for funeral costs, but that's not enough compensation for killing their son, so hopefully they get more than that when they meet again for further talks.

The problem is that two people died in the accident, so my cousin's family may not receive a lot of compensation, considering that the other boy's family also needs to be paid.
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Reply #21 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 11:20pm
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 2:00am:
We have court cases in Laos, but most offenses among "poor" people are settled out of court.

The driver's relative will be negotiating with my cousin's family soon, also with the other boys family who got killed together.

They've already paid my cousin's family 3 million kip ($375 US) for funeral costs, but that's not enough compensation for killing their son, so hopefully they get more than that when they meet again for further talks.

The problem is that two people died in the accident, so my cousin's family may not receive a lot of compensation, considering that the other boy's family also needs to be paid.


How are these 'poor' cases handled? You gets to play the judge and bang the gavel? Don't tell me it's the cop whose verdict could docilely be bought for US $10!

How much is someones life worth in Laos? I know in the States you could walk out of a courtroom with multiple millions in punitives alone! It also depends on how good of an 'actor' your lawyer is. Cheesy

Is there any ill feeling towards to the assailant held by your aunty and uncle? What about your cousins? Don't they want to bring on karma? An eye for an eye? Do they have 'payback' on their minds?
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Reply #22 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 1:22am
 
You can't play judge, the decision is based on the law. I sad all along that if you kill someone in a road accident, it's jail time for you.

My uncle and aunty are probably still sad, but they are feeling a bit better now. They don't have payback on their minds because nothing can bring their son back. The truck driver is in jail, and they expect to receive more compensation soon, so that gives them some peace of mind.
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Reply #23 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 1:29am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 1:22am:
You can't play judge, the decision is based on the law. I sad all along that if you kill someone in a road accident, it's jail time for you.

My uncle and aunty are probably still sad, but they are feeling a bit better now. They don't have payback on their minds because nothing can bring their son back. The truck driver is in jail, and they expect to receive more compensation soon, so that gives them some peace of mind.


Is 'compensation' law too? What if it was a peasant? Will a buffalo and half a dozen chickens do? What if the assailant simply decides that he doesn't want to pay?
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Reply #24 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 2:25am
 
Yes, you are required to pay up if you are at fault. Everybody has money in Laos, or they can find ways of finding money, even poor people. They can sell their buffalo or other assets such as a motorbike or land. Relatives usually help out too, or borrow from somewhere.

If the defendant refuses to pay then he or she will be in jail for a very long time, and their assets may be seized.
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Reply #25 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 4:10pm
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 2:25am:
Yes, you are required to pay up if you are at fault. Everybody has money in Laos, or they can find ways of finding money, even poor people. They can sell their buffalo or other assets such as a motorbike or land. Relatives usually help out too, or borrow from somewhere.

If the defendant refuses to pay then he or she will be in jail for a very long time, and their assets may be seized.


The buffalo and half a dozen chickens won't do?
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Reply #26 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 9:36pm
 
If you had a son and someone killed him, will a buffalo and some chickens do for you?
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Reply #27 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm
 
The buffalo goes for quite a substantial amount when under an auctioneer's hammer. You could also breed the chicken. Smiley

I was talking about the dirt poor. If they lack in possesion of mammon, where are you going to force them to get it from?
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Reply #28 - 29th Apr, 2011 at 1:53am
 
A buffalo in Laos is worth a few hundred dollars at most.

If the dirt poor have farm animals then they obviously have land. They can sell this asset to compensate the victims family, or get loans from friends and relatives.
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Re: 55 die in 7 days of Lao New Year road accidents
Reply #29 - 11th Jan, 2012 at 3:21pm
 
llX wrote on 21st Apr, 2011 at 1:49am:
Most of the people in the U.S drive a car. Some ride motorcycle for fun and for speed. It doesn't matter what you drive. When you're drunk it doesn't help.
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Still the rate of road accidents caused by drink n drive is increasing, even we are having some strict laws against it but still we are unable to stop it completely. People need to understand the value of life, by driving after drinking they are not only playing with their life but the life of other people traveling on the road is endangered.

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