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Want Laos To Be Independence Full Member Offline FREEDOM FIGHTER Posts: 228 Gender:	HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE? 20^th Dec, 2009 at 2:56am FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS. THIS WILL HELP THE LAO PEOPLE GET OFF POVERTY.
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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #1 - 20^th Dec, 2009 at 4:54am

Corruption exists in every country because people are greedy or they are poorly paid. It can't be stopped but it can be minimised. What is Singapore like? I don't think that any country is perfect.

I know many rich people in Laos, but they like to act poor so that people don't steal from them, or they don't like to show off.

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Reply #2 - 20^th Dec, 2009 at 7:31am

"Poorly paid", "Greedy"

cause our human being to corrupt.( right on the money)you know what, you are a smart gal( alway have an answer for everything).Can I take you out for diner?

There is way there is wheel
There is question there is an answer( like U )

To my opinions:
1. Increase the salary up to ( 2x,3x or 4x )
2. Enforce the Laws ( No one will be above the Laws )
3. Build more prisons ( Re-education Camp )

I do undertand why the corruption occurrence in every the developing countries just as Laos

( Poor )

To stop completely can't be but can drop down to minimum level(

yes

)

If You or I be a president

corruption will cease forever

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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #3 - 20^th Dec, 2009 at 8:52am

I'm not smart, it's general knowledge facts. Everybody wants an increase in their salary but that's up to the employers.

I don't like to eat out because who knows how they cook the food, besides you are in the US.

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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #4 - 22^nd Dec, 2009 at 9:48am

Corruption is due to many factors but the main factor in this context is due to POVERTY and Government infrastructure. Government officials steal because they can get away with it, who will challenge them? You challenge them and you will find yourself in a lot of trouble yourself so people just turn a blind eye. ...You ask yourself "what can I do to stop this".....answer - Not a lot at all....it's sad but true.

Someone said that corruption happens in EVERY country...this is a bold statement and I would like to see some evidence of this...or is this just another wild statement.

Corruption can only stopped if people are punished for it. By punishment I mean, jail time or large fines...or both. Making people fear the punishment will deter anyone from corruption. Obviously in a developing country this takes time and they is no short term fix. I understand that corruption is taking place right this second but hopefully it can be managed and kept to a minimum and one day wiped out completely.

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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #5 - 22^nd Dec, 2009 at 11:33pm

I'm the one who said that corruption happens in every country.

For example, you always hear reports about Government members in many countries using taxpayers money for their personal spending.

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Reply #6 - 25^th Dec, 2009 at 8:09am

We knew, we have ears and eyes but ours seeing and hearing are totally different from you. For example: We are looking at the dog then we say that is a dog but when you are looking it then you say that ain't a dog, that is a deer (

so you can BBQ them

).
"American love dogs they don't eat them, dog is a man best friend"

"

CORRUPTION"

is in

OUR BLOOD

don't deny. I am Laotian.

And these are in our blood too :

" LAZY, TARDY, PARTY, TAKE IT EASY,EASY MONEY, QUICK CASH AND DON'T CARE"

And one an other thing is good about Lao :

" We do not like violence we love peace"

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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #7 - 25^th Dec, 2009 at 8:53pm

The Vietnamese and Chinese taught Laotians to eat dogs and now cats, it's sad.

I don't want to generalise, just because some people have those bad traits doesn't necessarily mean that all Laotians are like that.

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Want Laos To Be Independence Full Member Offline FREEDOM FIGHTER Posts: 228 Gender:	Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE? Reply #8 - 26^th Dec, 2009 at 9:04am "Ying and Yang" is sign for "Good and Evil" I feel you, you are a good person. I have seen good citizens die for doing the right thing, and I have seen criminals live to a ripe old age. So don't destroy yourself by being too good or acting too smart ! Merry Christmas to you, Dallas
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Want Laos To Be Independence Full Member Offline FREEDOM FIGHTER Posts: 228 Gender:	Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE? Reply #9 - 6^th Jan, 2010 at 11:07am To stop Corruption is so easy.... Kick Buck Choummaly out and replace you ( Miss Adm) up there The Old School has no knowledge of running the country but they do know how to make their pockets get bigger and bigger....that's good for them but not for the country.
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Jason Newbie to Lao Pride Offline Interested to know more about Laos... Posts: 4 Toronto, Canada Gender: Age: 50	Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE? Reply #10 - 6^th Jan, 2010 at 11:32am Hi Guys and Gals, Sorry to barge into the conversation but I find it interesting. Corruption does exist everyone just at different levels and how acceptable it is. What type of government do you have? Sorry for my ignorance.
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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #11 - 6^th Jan, 2010 at 5:19pm

I don't think there is 1 right answer to STOP corruption. EVERYONE has a role in reducing/stopping corruption.

1. Greed - It starts with every individual. Everybody wants something for themselves. Some people don't know when or how much is enough
2. Moral and Ethical values - ຈະລິຍະທຳ, ສີນລະທຳ. Because the majority of the Laotian population lack education, therefore lack the principals of right and wrong. In my opinion, sometimes you don't need to have education to DISTINGUISH between what is right vs. what is wrong.
3. Written Laws - There needs to be written laws for ALL people to see and know about, NOT just the people with authority/power, with prescribed punishments, like jail time and/or monetary fines. One of the biggest complaints westerners have is that LAO laws "lack transparency." Meaning - Many written laws with punishments are not available or are "loosely written."

True story - I went to visit Laos in 2007 for the first time sinceleaving in 1978. I was in Luang Prabang visiting wife's family. Her cousin's husband IS a tax collector (ອາກອນ) in LPB province. That guy built a big 2 story house with 4 bedrooms, nice big LR and kitchen. He drive a NEW Toyota Vigo! His wife is the accountant for LPB, his father in-law is Treasurer (ນາຍຄັງ) of LPB province. His wife sister is ຕມ at LPB airport. The average provincial worker earns what $30-$50 a month. Higher positions make upto $100-$200/month. So tell me how the hell that guy has all that?

Answer - CORRUPTION! He collects what ever he wants when he WANT IT! If you question him...the answer in "orders from high up" "ຜູ້ໃຫຍ່ສັ່ງມາ"

INDEPENDENCE is right. Corruption/Cheat is in our blood. If WE, adults don't change, don't teach children right and wrong, they too will be like that when they grow up.

Lastly - Those that are benefitting from corruption, there is NO WAY IN HELL they will change. Corruption happens at lower levels and $$ makes its way up!

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Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE?
Reply #12 - 6^th Jan, 2010 at 10:59pm

WantLaosToBeIndependence, I have no knowledge about running a country to take their place. The current school is doing a fine job with the assistance from their highly skilled advisers.

Jason from Canada, the Government in Laos is a single party socialist state.

BorLeumBanGerd, your connections in Laos have professional jobs, that's great. I guess you have to put yourself in his position, would you be riding a bicycle and living in a wooden house if you were a tax collector? In Laos, people will look down at you. It's obvious that he is corrupted, but then again if another person replaced him they will do the same thing. It's unfortunate that the higher your position, the more corrupted you become.

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Jason Newbie to Lao Pride Offline Interested to know more about Laos... Posts: 4 Toronto, Canada Gender: Age: 50	Re: HOW TO STOP CORRUPTION?CAN LAOS BE LIKE SINGAPORE? Reply #13 - 7^th Jan, 2010 at 7:26pm And there no talk about up and coming new polictical parties? or maybe new leaders? I assume the current party in power is not elected?
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Reply #14 - 7^th Jan, 2010 at 7:30pm

ADMIN..Your comment below....

BorLeumBanGerd, your connections in Laos have professional jobs, that's great. I guess you have to put yourself in his position, would you be riding a bicycle and living in a wooden house if you were a tax collector? In Laos, people will look down at you.

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So you are saying, for the "tax collector" to SAVE FACE and NOT be EMBARRASSED by his HIGH STATUS JOB, he has NO "RESPECTIBLE" transportation....HE NEEDS TO BE CORRUPT? If I'm not mistaken, that's EXACTLY what you're saying! It also sounds like you APPROVE/CONDONE, this behavior?

If I made a mistake, I truely am sorry. If not, please clearly explain your statement....

YOUR STATEMENT IS EXACTLY this type of ATTITUDE & REASON that LAOS as a PEOPLE and as a COUNTRY, WILL NOT PROGRESS, and catch up with some of the more modern countries.....where LAWS ARE CLEARLY WRITTEN and CLEARLY DEFINED, so people DO NOT commit crimes such as CORRUPTION and BRIBERY!

In Laos, NOBODY DARE TO SPEAK OUT or DARE TO REPORT! Also, WHO do you report to? Because THE CORRUPTOR'S BOSS GETS A % OF THE $$$$. If you DO SPEAK OUT and REPORT..now you've just made it WORSE! Now you're the TARGET! YOU JUST PUT A "BULLSEYE" on your HEAD!

America is NOT perfect, there are crooks and criminals from the regular people to local, state and federal government. BUT ONCE IT IS REPORTED, especially if its on TV or CNN, THEY FACE THE LAWS!

WHY & HOW >> Because FREE PEOPLE in FREE and DEMOCRATIC SOCITIES are NOT afraid to SPEAK UP/SPEAK OUT against ABUSIVE and CORRUPTED OFFICIALS

I WON'T LIE TO YOU, AND I'M VERY FAIR IT STILL DOES HAPPEN, BUT THEY ARE TRACKED DOWN, CAUGHT and face the laws!

So please ADMIN, further explain your statement.

POVERTY and LOW PAY ASSIDE...Do you approve/condone that type of behavior? Do you think it is right? IT SOUNDED AS IF YOU DO...!

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