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Reply #60 - 2nd Feb, 2010 at 1:59pm
 
Very well said BHK! I think WE ALL want to see the people have the opportunity to choose, get educated, have civil liberties and freedoms without fear of persecution from the government.

Tee wrote on 2nd Feb, 2010 at 1:09am:
Wise words...after all these dicusstion, Laos need education not new goverment. I have said on other post..to make Laos a better place is to Change the whole Education system and the new goverment will be channge by it self. I hope you agree with me!


TEE - Education is NOT the lone answer. To move forward to a TRUE democratic state "PASATIPATAI".....then the government MUST also change!

When I say CHANGE, I don't just mean, economic, financial, education, infrastructures etc.... I'm including government policy, government structure, attitutudes and beliefs, ways of thinking, CLEAR WRITTEN LAWS WITH PUNISHMENTS to curb problems like CORRUPTION. This obviously is NOT a complete listing...but I guess you get the point.

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Reply #61 - 2nd Feb, 2010 at 2:40pm
 
BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 2nd Feb, 2010 at 1:59pm:
Very well said BHK! I think WE ALL want to see the people have the opportunity to choose, get educated, have civil liberties and freedoms without fear of persecution from the government.

Tee wrote on 2nd Feb, 2010 at 1:09am:
Wise words...after all these dicusstion, Laos need education not new goverment. I have said on other post..to make Laos a better place is to Change the whole Education system and the new goverment will be channge by it self. I hope you agree with me!


TEE - Education is NOT the lone answer. To move forward to a TRUE democratic state "PASATIPATAI".....then the government MUST also change!

When I say CHANGE, I don't just mean, economic, financial, education, infrastructures etc.... I'm including government policy, government structure, attitutudes and beliefs, ways of thinking, CLEAR WRITTEN LAWS WITH PUNISHMENTS to curb problems like CORRUPTION. This obviously is NOT a complete listing...but I guess you get the point.


I belief to teach the people what is democracy,freedow of speak,how to manage the business. it's like a tools you have to teach them how to use it first before the tools can be use affectively.
After the Second world war. The France give Indochina the independent. what do we do...We kill each other for the power. internal war started every corner of the country, brother kill brother for the hunger of power.(Laos loyal family) I don't want that to happens again! let's learn from the past! at that time we rack of knowledge of what is democracy,rack of law and order,rack of people management,rack of business and trade skill. Under this government is still rack of all what I have mention above! Education is the only way to get Laos to be a Strong nation again!
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Reply #62 - 2nd Feb, 2010 at 4:00pm
 
You are CORRECT Tee....Education is KEY!

But with an educated society you WILL have people that will demand, PEACEFULLY OR OTHERWISE, civil rights, freedoms of speech, freedom of assembly and demonstrations. They will DEMAND the goverment do more for the people, they will want the government to provide and improve services like health care or unemployment checks, road, electricity, water, schools and educational programs, open doors and opportunities, they will demand the government to STOP and END Chinese and Vietnamese influence, they will speak out agains CORRUPTION....etc, etc,

EDUCATED PEOPLE YES! But LAOS will still be a socialist and communist authoritarian rule! Like you said earlier, those in power don't want to lose that power!

So having said all of that, DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Look what happened to China in Tiananmen Square in 1989! It started out as a peaceful studen rally, demonstrations for democracy and civil rights.

Let me ask you again...DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Not so easy to answer this one though huh? Sacrifices NEED to be made for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE AND FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY!

Do you really think an aggressive, totalitarian, authoritarian communist government, allow this to happen?

I'm NOT saying it CAN'T happen, but it will NOT be easy!
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Reply #63 - 2nd Feb, 2010 at 4:39pm
 
BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 2nd Feb, 2010 at 4:00pm:
You are CORRECT Tee....Education is KEY!

But with an educated society you WILL have people that will demand, PEACEFULLY OR OTHERWISE, civil rights, freedoms of speech, freedom of assembly and demonstrations. They will DEMAND the goverment do more for the people, they will want the government to provide and improve services like health care or unemployment checks, road, electricity, water, schools and educational programs, open doors and opportunities, they will demand the government to STOP and END Chinese and Vietnamese influence, they will speak out agains CORRUPTION....etc, etc,

EDUCATED PEOPLE YES! But LAOS will still be a socialist and communist authoritarian rule! Like you said earlier, those in power don't want to lose that power!

So having said all of that, DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Look what happened to China in Tiananmen Square in 1989! It started out as a peaceful studen rally, demonstrations for democracy and civil rights.

Let me ask you again...DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Not so easy to answer this one though huh? Sacrifices NEED to be made for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE AND FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY!

Do you really think an aggressive, totalitarian, authoritarian communist government, allow this to happen?

I'm NOT saying it CAN'T happen, but it will NOT be easy!


I have faith,  we will get there..Internet has open the door to Laos as you know no one can block the WWW. people in Laos can judge they own faith, when time arrive, we would see that happening. I just hope to see it  in my life time!
I would be going home in 3 years time, I would start something small first just to test the market, but I will never sell out every thing, I have here. My plan B, if anything happened in Laos, I can always come back here again. I am not afraid to lose,but more afraid not to try. I got one American Dollars when I got here. If I going to lose some of my wealth, that is not going to kill me. I have give my children the best education I can afford...I am not going to worry about their future. they probably will make more money that me anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #64 - 2nd Feb, 2010 at 6:11pm
 
I'm glad you have faith and plans to retire in Laos Tee. I have visited Laos once and look forward to bringing my children to see my homeland, when they are older.

Fyi..about your comment:

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Internet has open the door to Laos as you know no one can block the WWW. people in Laos can judge they own faith, when time arrive, we would see that happening


Actually you are INCORRECT in this statement. The Laos government with the help of Chinese/Vietnamese governments can BLOCK, FILTER or CENSOR, and MONITOR ANY information they want on internet CONTENT that they find, "inappropriate" "defaming" or "threat to the state or party" etc...

Let me restate - The Laos government DOES BLOCK or FILTER websites!

Sites like pro-democracy movements, or sites attacking the government...are on the top of the list.

Here's an article:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2010/01/25/opinion/opinion_30121062.php

Recently GOOGLE, threatened to pull out of China for its censorships or contents found on GOOGLE. WWW or the internet means FREE ACCESS to FREE information from all over the world! Putting censorships or "filters" ATTACKS that FREEDOM!

They can block ANY content, just like I can block PORN from my 8 year old son, who also uses the internet for learning.

Think about it, why do you think ADMIN NEVER says anything NEGATIVE about the government or the current state of the people? She is monitored and she knows it! So she can't say anything DEROGATORY!

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Reply #65 - 13th Feb, 2010 at 7:58am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21st Dec, 2009 at 4:14am:
I'm never mad and I didn't know this was a test. Look, they can get any job. Work in a restaurant as a waitress or go and clean toilets somewhere, it doesn't matter what job it is, a job is a job.

They want to be prostitutes for the money, it's as simple as that. I'm sure they use some kind of protection during sex.

Sometimes Lao girls are abducted or tricked into working as prostitutes in Thailand like the example below:


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Reply #66 - 13th Feb, 2010 at 11:45am
 
Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 13th Feb, 2010 at 7:58am:
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21st Dec, 2009 at 4:14am:
I'm never mad and I didn't know this was a test. Look, they can get any job. Work in a restaurant as a waitress or go and clean toilets somewhere, it doesn't matter what job it is, a job is a job.

They want to be prostitutes for the money, it's as simple as that. I'm sure they use some kind of protection during sex.

Sometimes Lao girls are abducted or tricked into working as prostitutes in Thailand like the example below:


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As long as there is a need ,there will be always people willing to sale. Just like the Drug in any part of the world...you can never  stop it...but you can control it by make it legal......
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Reply #67 - 17th Feb, 2010 at 10:21am
 
North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea.

Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist.
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Reply #68 - 17th Feb, 2010 at 11:48am
 
Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 17th Feb, 2010 at 10:21am:
North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea.

Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist.

Every communist in this world is fake-ass Communist. The real communist is to be classless.everyone have the equate right of decision making. it's bese on the community and help other to live a better life. but that is only a dream of Marxism-Leninism and he didn't even live to see for that long.... This System can never workable with the Human Ideology. because we Human have Need,Greed,Jealousy and the will to be better than every one else!
In Text book is a very good system but in real life can never work....
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Reply #69 - 17th Feb, 2010 at 12:25pm
 
Tee wrote on 17th Feb, 2010 at 11:48am:
Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 17th Feb, 2010 at 10:21am:
North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea.

Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist.

Every communist in this world is fake-ass Communist. The real communist is to be classless.everyone have the equate right of decision making. it's bese on the community and help other to live a better life. but that is only a dream of Marxism-Leninism and he didn't even live to see for that long.... This System can never workable with the Human Ideology. because we Human have Need,Greed,Jealousy and the will to be better than every one else!
In Text book is a very good system but in real life can never work....

I don't think they said we are trash,but saying "Laos is lazy" It's our culture making us this way. most of Laos doesn't need to go very far to find food. any Creek have Fish and land have Bamboo. so it's making us not to worry about food. Most Laos have a habit having a nap in the afternoon. Our culture is making us a Nation of no worry. and Lazy according with other nation. because of our culture!

Chinese and Vietnamese have been doing business since The French in control of Indochina. I don't think you can stop that.....and they will always will be in control of the economic of the country.  Specially Chinese, They will always dominate the Business of Asian Country. Thailand 4 big Bank is in the hand of Chinese. Although they no longer using Chinese Name. Malaysia,Singapore,Indonesia,Philippine all the economic are control by Chinese. if they gone all country will going to melt down.  They are just like the Jew control all the economic of the western world. You are hate them but you can't live with out them! Like the old say" If you can bid them, Joint them"
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Reply #70 - 23rd Feb, 2010 at 6:31pm
 
It is..  What it is...  Just let it be...  You'll die trying to compare and keeping up with neighbor countries.
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Reply #71 - 24th Feb, 2010 at 11:46am
 
It's rather complicated, try to simplify it,most of them have these problems:
1. Poor and need large sum of money (their standard)
2. Heavily in debt (her or family)
3. Unskill, naive,young and of course good looking (who wants an ugly hooker)
After a while in the game, they became used to it and most of them DON'T want to do anything else... after all it's quite easy to make money, sad thing is as they becomes older so, their prices drops, the lucky one becomes Mami, the majority...sad...and try to sell their daughter to pay for the debts...here we go again.

Solution...wise men try to fix this prolem since adam was wearing nappies, for me... the only way is either sew the pussy up or cut the funny bit off.

And for those think that proverty is the main cause, may be, but don't tell me there is no hooker in Swiss which is the richest country in the world.

For those thinking that they are the world's savior, poor guy, you've been conned like those poor north Koreans, 90% of the world's problem is caused by your master.
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Reply #72 - 21st Mar, 2010 at 10:55pm
 
TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES

OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA

I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL

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Reply #73 - 22nd Mar, 2010 at 2:26am
 
Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21st Mar, 2010 at 10:55pm:
TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES

OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA

I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL


You have seen it all,but you still follow their foot step. umm that telling me you are not learning but you a follower........

It's sad to see one of my country man like this...if you come to Australia...I maybe able to give you a job...and a place to stay....
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Reply #74 - 22nd Mar, 2010 at 5:33am
 
Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21st Mar, 2010 at 10:55pm:
TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES

OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA

I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL




What about the Laotian low-life gangsters or wannabe blacks in America? You are no better then the people you stereotype. 

As regard to casino and whore houses, it's everywhere around the world.  What can you do to stop this? You really can't.  It's up to the people in villages or cities to protest this.  If our people stoop this low to allow this I will have to agree with you there.  Laos has a population of a little over 5-6 million.  I don't know how much impact this will have on the country as a whole.   I guess time will tell.
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