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Reply #15 - 29th Jun, 2011 at 3:27pm
 
OMD wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 12:52pm:
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OMD wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 8:22am:
Well, you have to realize he's using caution for safety reasons. if you ticked off the wrong person, you could as well be missing or your family members.



Exactly, that's why his speech doesn't mean anything. It's just fun and games because he is talking without any conviction and seriousness of the matter.

The other politicians are just sitting there so quiet you can hear a pin drop, there's no response from anyone so how do we know if people agree or disagree with him?

In other countries, the politicians are always at each other's throats, yelling and screaming at each other. That's what we need in Laos. If you are too nice, you're not my ideal leader. I want a tough leader, but at the same time a leader who accepts criticisms.


Other countries have different government structure that allows criticism, you can't compare. The problem with Lao is, it's limited. One party system, everyone's afraid of each other, no one's willing to take a stand. I don't know much about Dr. Khampheuy Panmalaythong maybe you can enlighten me and others in regards to his background. I'd like to know more about him.

If what you say is true about his lack of seriousness (fun and games) then what's the point of him presenting his ideas? What exactly is his agenda?

Other politicians are sitting quietly listening without interruptions that's good right? At least he got his point across, hoping it'll sink into their head. He knows the world is changing fast, Lao is going to be left behind if old ideology is still in placed. In my opinion, Lao people right now are like slaves (sheep) to the system. Many are living their lives in hardship and that's all they will ever know if nothing is going to change.




What ideas did he present? The things he said is nothing new to everyone in that room. He wants to say more than that, but obviously there's no freedom of speech to allow him to do so.

It's just a general talk similar to listening to a Buddhist Monk tell a story. He didn't mention any names, and he refrained from accusing anyone. His speech made me fall asleep.
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Reply #16 - 29th Jun, 2011 at 3:38pm
 
llX wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 3:13pm:
This is what you want to see in Laos politics Saovaluck?





I don't want to see any physical fighting in Lao politics, but I do want to see verbal fighting.

I also want to see politicians be specific about the problem, what man or woman in Government is causing the problem. Give them the freedom to name them and accuse them without going to jail, that's what politicians in developed countries do.
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Reply #17 - 30th Jun, 2011 at 1:17am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 3:27pm:
OMD wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 12:52pm:
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 8:57am:
OMD wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 8:22am:
Well, you have to realize he's using caution for safety reasons. if you ticked off the wrong person, you could as well be missing or your family members.



Exactly, that's why his speech doesn't mean anything. It's just fun and games because he is talking without any conviction and seriousness of the matter.

The other politicians are just sitting there so quiet you can hear a pin drop, there's no response from anyone so how do we know if people agree or disagree with him?

In other countries, the politicians are always at each other's throats, yelling and screaming at each other. That's what we need in Laos. If you are too nice, you're not my ideal leader. I want a tough leader, but at the same time a leader who accepts criticisms.


Other countries have different government structure that allows criticism, you can't compare. The problem with Lao is, it's limited. One party system, everyone's afraid of each other, no one's willing to take a stand. I don't know much about Dr. Khampheuy Panmalaythong maybe you can enlighten me and others in regards to his background. I'd like to know more about him.

If what you say is true about his lack of seriousness (fun and games) then what's the point of him presenting his ideas? What exactly is his agenda?

Other politicians are sitting quietly listening without interruptions that's good right? At least he got his point across, hoping it'll sink into their head. He knows the world is changing fast, Lao is going to be left behind if old ideology is still in placed. In my opinion, Lao people right now are like slaves (sheep) to the system. Many are living their lives in hardship and that's all they will ever know if nothing is going to change.




What ideas did he present? The things he said is nothing new to everyone in that room. He wants to say more than that, but obviously there's no freedom of speech to allow him to do so.

It's just a general talk similar to listening to a Buddhist Monk tell a story. He didn't mention any names, and he refrained from accusing anyone. His speech made me fall asleep.


I'm sure what you say is true about it being just general talk and nothing new. However, he has nothing to gain by addressing it repeatedly, right?  In my perspective view, this is what I see "We need to wake up, the time for change is now. If we keep following the same path we'll never achieve anything, and the country would still be treated as the bottom feeders of the world." It's not aggressive like you wanted but, the message is pretty clear. 

Speaking of change it's happening as we speak. It started with opening doors to tourism, outside businesses.  Now you may have noticed the government is trying to change their policy and bring expatriates home to build businesses, educate,etc...It's a start.  I promise you in the future, you and everyone in the country will have freedom of speech.  Right now, it's just a slow process.
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Reply #18 - 30th Jun, 2011 at 2:56am
 
I read somewhere that following his speech, several other members of the National Assembly made speeches in support of Dr. Khampheuy's views.

Could someone here translate some of his key points into English?
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Reply #20 - 30th Jun, 2011 at 10:09pm
 
Many news generation of Lao leader supported him.

This what he say.

Why we Laos in 2011 used Communism system it for Russian, from Lenin in 1910.

Laos education system need reform.

There's too many corruption.

We need to learn how to developed the country from the U.S and Japan.


Laosnow wrote on 30th Jun, 2011 at 2:56am:
I read somewhere that following his speech, several other members of the National Assembly made speeches in support of Dr. Khampheuy's views.

Could someone here translate some of his key points into English?

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Reply #21 - 1st Jul, 2011 at 5:42am
 
Well, they're supposed to support him. It's a one-party system and members of the party have to support each other, otherwise they are shown the door.

Around the world is no different in multi-party systems. Members of a political party are considered friends. If they have issues with each other, it stays behind closed doors. The only enemy is the opposition party.

The former Prime Minister of Laos stated that he resigned due to family problems. Don't insult our intelligence, we all know it's more than that.
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Reply #22 - 1st Jul, 2011 at 12:06pm
 
They should supported Dr. Khampheuy Panmalaythong. He is right and know what he is talking about. Sometime in America Democrats, Republican Party don't supported each other.

I like former PM Bouasone Bouphavanh. He did a great jobs? Didn't they also kick him out of Politburo?


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Well, they're supposed to support him. It's a one-party system and members of the party have to support each other, otherwise they are shown the door.

Around the world is no different in multi-party systems. Members of a political party are considered friends. If they have issues with each other, it stays behind closed doors. The only enemy is the opposition party.

The former Prime Minister of Laos stated that he resigned due to family problems. Don't insult our intelligence, we all know it's more than that.

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Reply #23 - 4th Jul, 2011 at 7:32am
 
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The meetings of the National Assembly are now televised and a hotline to the Assembly has been set up so that citizens can ask questions and voice complaints.

How do you know? Are you in Laos?
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Reply #24 - 4th Jul, 2011 at 7:51am
 
Sounds like that guy is proposing for the Commies to loosen their stranglehold on education, giving more 'power' to Laos' ministry of education.

Is it true the Commies dictate Lao curriculum?

Is it also true classes in Laos aren't taught by proper qualified subject teachers?

They don't have periods in Laos? Are students required to just sit in the same classroom all day with the same teacher who is supposed to know-it-all?

That must be the reason for these kids' disinterest:

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Reply #25 - 4th Jul, 2011 at 11:44pm
 
This VDO is televised lived.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jHv746-rCmU


Larb Dip wrote on 4th Jul, 2011 at 7:32am:
Laosnow wrote on 29th Jun, 2011 at 2:20am:
The meetings of the National Assembly are now televised and a hotline to the Assembly has been set up so that citizens can ask questions and voice complaints.

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Reply #26 - 4th Jul, 2011 at 11:48pm
 
Everything is control and propaganda. They teach student that human are from monkey, Evolution. I went to school in Laos till the age of 12 before moving to the U.S.
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Larb Dip wrote on 4th Jul, 2011 at 7:51am:
Sounds like that guy is proposing for the Commies to loosen their stranglehold on education, giving more 'power' to Laos' ministry of education.

Is it true the Commies dictate Lao curriculum?

Is it also true classes in Laos aren't taught by proper qualified subject teachers?

They don't have periods in Laos? Are students required to just sit in the same classroom all day with the same teacher who is supposed to know-it-all?

That must be the reason for these kids' disinterest:


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Reply #27 - 5th Jul, 2011 at 12:01am
 
"The strength of a nation derives from the integrity of its leader, free market, good educational system, and the will to change if there are faults. Speak out the truths are always paradoxical however it is essential to fundament change in Laos political system." samkoi56
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Reply #28 - 5th Jul, 2011 at 9:40am
 
Laos should be careful against the Viet, before they become a democratic country.
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Reply #29 - 5th Jul, 2011 at 11:27am
 
Nothing Laos can do about Vietnam. They're too powerful. With 90 million population. Laos 7 million. "Big fish eat small fish."
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